Check new wording and see what you think....seaborgium wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:18 pmI think you've got to be a little more specific in your wording.Spoiler
Sacramento, Hartford, Hartford, Honolulu, Springfield, Frankfort, Frankfort, Augusta, Jackson, Carson City, Concord, Trenton, Salem, Pierre.
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seaborgium wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:18 pmI think you've got to be a little more specific in your wording.Spoiler
Sacramento, Hartford, Hartford, Honolulu, Springfield, Frankfort, Frankfort, Augusta, Jackson, Carson City, Concord, Trenton, Salem, Pierre.
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In mas3cf's revision, the addition of "is a word" made the clue more specific, but less fun.
We also have June, dove, burg. Add adjectives and verbs and we can also count tall, sing, rich, and char. And "rale" (pronounced to rhyme with "pal") is also a noun, though uncommon; rales are diagnostic breath sounds sometimes heard through a stethoscope.
We also have June, dove, burg. Add adjectives and verbs and we can also count tall, sing, rich, and char. And "rale" (pronounced to rhyme with "pal") is also a noun, though uncommon; rales are diagnostic breath sounds sometimes heard through a stethoscope.
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EUROPEAN CITIES
Founded in the 6th century BC, it replaced a settlement that then came to be known as the "old city."
Founded in the 6th century BC, it replaced a settlement that then came to be known as the "old city."
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What is Naples (or Napoli)? (Neapolis = new city)
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I totally missed "dove." I wasn't sure whether "burg" was more than a suffix and forgot to look it up. "June" doesn't fit the common noun stipulation.AFRET CMS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:54 pmseaborgium wrote: ↑Sun Sep 20, 2020 4:18 pmI think you've got to be a little more specific in your wording.Spoiler
Sacramento, Hartford, Hartford, Honolulu, Springfield, Frankfort, Frankfort, Augusta, Jackson, Carson City, Concord, Trenton, Salem, Pierre.Spoiler
In mas3cf's revision, the addition of "is a word" made the clue more specific, but less fun.
We also have June, dove, burg. Add adjectives and verbs and we can also count tall, sing, rich, and char. And "rale" (pronounced to rhyme with "pal") is also a noun, though uncommon; rales are diagnostic breath sounds sometimes heard through a stethoscope.
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NAME'S THE SAME
The name of a sportswear logo, it was also the original name of a video game character who first appeared in 1981.
The name of a sportswear logo, it was also the original name of a video game character who first appeared in 1981.
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What is Jumpman? (Air Jordan/Mario)
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US CITIES
This city's sister cities include Chongqing, China; Toyota, Japan; and Turin, Italy.
This city's sister cities include Chongqing, China; Toyota, Japan; and Turin, Italy.
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What is Detroit?
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I really enjoy these, but my sense is that they're too hard for regular play. I could be wrong. Maybe you could run a poll or two with 8 to 16 of your FJs. In Season 35, boardies responding to the weekly poll averaged 70% on FJs. That's high, though. From Seasons 28 to 34 we averaged 61-65%. There's some selection bias in those stats which likely means the numbers skew high. I'd say under 50% would indicate an FJ is on the difficult side, but not necessaril unfair. Under 25% tends to indicate the clue is too difficult or the it's got problems with its wording or its facts.
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Sure thing, I can give that a try. For this one, I figuredopusthepenguin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:46 amI really enjoy these, but my sense is that they're too hard for regular play. I could be wrong. Maybe you could run a poll or two with 8 to 16 of your FJs. In Season 35, boardies responding to the weekly poll averaged 70% on FJs. That's high, though. From Seasons 28 to 34 we averaged 61-65%. There's some selection bias in those stats which likely means the numbers skew high. I'd say under 50% would indicate an FJ is on the difficult side, but not necessaril unfair. Under 25% tends to indicate the clue is too difficult or the it's got problems with its wording or its facts.
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Toyota would lead you to the auto industry if Chongqing and Turin didn't. From there, auto industry -> Detroit is the obvious jump
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A similar FJ was used in regular play (and was a triple-get): http://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_ ... ta+detroitopusthepenguin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:46 amI really enjoy these, but my sense is that they're too hard for regular play. I could be wrong. Maybe you could run a poll or two with 8 to 16 of your FJs. In Season 35, boardies responding to the weekly poll averaged 70% on FJs. That's high, though. From Seasons 28 to 34 we averaged 61-65%. There's some selection bias in those stats which likely means the numbers skew high. I'd say under 50% would indicate an FJ is on the difficult side, but not necessaril unfair. Under 25% tends to indicate the clue is too difficult or the it's got problems with its wording or its facts.
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Darn, I guess I'm not as creative as I thought...nserven wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:20 pmA similar FJ was used in regular play (and was a triple-get): http://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_ ... ta+detroitopusthepenguin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:46 amI really enjoy these, but my sense is that they're too hard for regular play. I could be wrong. Maybe you could run a poll or two with 8 to 16 of your FJs. In Season 35, boardies responding to the weekly poll averaged 70% on FJs. That's high, though. From Seasons 28 to 34 we averaged 61-65%. There's some selection bias in those stats which likely means the numbers skew high. I'd say under 50% would indicate an FJ is on the difficult side, but not necessaril unfair. Under 25% tends to indicate the clue is too difficult or the it's got problems with its wording or its facts.
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I actually got this one, but I've gotten very few of them.mas3cf wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 12:12 pmSure thing, I can give that a try. For this one, I figuredopusthepenguin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:46 amI really enjoy these, but my sense is that they're too hard for regular play. I could be wrong. Maybe you could run a poll or two with 8 to 16 of your FJs. In Season 35, boardies responding to the weekly poll averaged 70% on FJs. That's high, though. From Seasons 28 to 34 we averaged 61-65%. There's some selection bias in those stats which likely means the numbers skew high. I'd say under 50% would indicate an FJ is on the difficult side, but not necessaril unfair. Under 25% tends to indicate the clue is too difficult or the it's got problems with its wording or its facts.
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Toyota would lead you to the auto industry if Chongqing and Turin didn't. From there, auto industry -> Detroit is the obvious jump
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As I said upthread, no sense making another thread for good questions we want to share that don't happen to fit the FJ mold.opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:46 amI really enjoy these, but my sense is that they're too hard for regular play. I could be wrong. Maybe you could run a poll or two with 8 to 16 of your FJs. In Season 35, boardies responding to the weekly poll averaged 70% on FJs. That's high, though. From Seasons 28 to 34 we averaged 61-65%. There's some selection bias in those stats which likely means the numbers skew high. I'd say under 50% would indicate an FJ is on the difficult side, but not necessaril unfair. Under 25% tends to indicate the clue is too difficult or the it's got problems with its wording or its facts.
That said, I agree most of these are tougher, and don't have much if anything in the way of clues to make them YEKIOYD.
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WORDPLAY
Add a letter to a region of the electromagnetic spectrum to get this adjective that has been used to describe such films as "The Wild Bunch", "A Clockwork Orange", and "Scarface"
Add a letter to a region of the electromagnetic spectrum to get this adjective that has been used to describe such films as "The Wild Bunch", "A Clockwork Orange", and "Scarface"
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What is ultraviolent?
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This could be phrased in several variants to look for different pieces of story - the composer, the song, for whom it was written, what it became, etc.
CLASSICAL COMPOSERS
In approximately 1796, this native of Austria, also known as the "Father of the String Quartet," wrote a song in honor of the last Holy Roman Emperor that later would become the national anthem of a different country.
CLASSICAL COMPOSERS
In approximately 1796, this native of Austria, also known as the "Father of the String Quartet," wrote a song in honor of the last Holy Roman Emperor that later would become the national anthem of a different country.
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Joseph Haydn
He wrote "Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser" as an anthem for Emperor Francis II. After many uses over the years, the melody became the German national anthem in 1922 as "Deutschlandlied" (AKA Deutschland Uber Alles").
He wrote "Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser" as an anthem for Emperor Francis II. After many uses over the years, the melody became the German national anthem in 1922 as "Deutschlandlied" (AKA Deutschland Uber Alles").
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FAMOUS THINKERS
In 1954, this person wrote, "I believe in Spinoza’s god, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world."
In 1954, this person wrote, "I believe in Spinoza’s god, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world."
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DANTE'S INFERNO
Two of the three biblical men whose names were given to the concentric rings in the frozen lake at the bottom of hell.
(two of) Cain, Ptolemy & Judas
Two of the three biblical men whose names were given to the concentric rings in the frozen lake at the bottom of hell.
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(two of) Cain, Ptolemy & Judas
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The middle one is from an apocryphal book that some traditions accept as canon while others don't. This makes the adjective "biblical" problematic and could disadvantage a contestant. Probably not, but maybe. It does seem that the two unambiguously biblical men--Cain and Judas--are the more likely path to victory here. Even then it seems a tad difficult (whereas asking for only one makes it a gimme). I've read the Inferno and the Bible, including the apocryphal book in question, and still didn't recall the Ring of Cain or of Ptolemy. In part this was because I wasted time thinking we were going for the three men being chewed on by the three mouths of Satan, and only one of them (Judas) was biblical. Perhaps if I'd learn to RTFC, I'd have spent my think time more productively and come up with Cain as a plausible second to the obvious Judas. If pressed for a third, I'd likely have guessed Ahab.
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I like this one. I think it hits the sweet spot between too hard and too easy. It's possible to take note of the TOMs and make a good guess even if you don't recognize the quote.talkingaway wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:05 pm FAMOUS THINKERS
In 1954, this person wrote, "I believe in Spinoza’s god, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world."
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Who is Albert Einstein?
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It helps to know that Spinoza was a Jewish philosopher (also Dutch and Portuguese, but that's not important right now). That plus 1954 took me to the correct response with a fair degree of confidence.
Does anyone know whether the quote was written or spoken and whether it was in English or German? I ask because I notice that "god" is not capitalized. Some sources have it that way, others capitalize the word. If the quote was spoken and/or originally in German (which capitalizes EVERY noun) then it's a matter of interpretation how to transfer the quote to written English. But if he wrote it in English, then one way's right and the other isn't.
Of course, for J! purposes, the show has a nifty way of sidestepping that question entirely.
Does anyone know whether the quote was written or spoken and whether it was in English or German? I ask because I notice that "god" is not capitalized. Some sources have it that way, others capitalize the word. If the quote was spoken and/or originally in German (which capitalizes EVERY noun) then it's a matter of interpretation how to transfer the quote to written English. But if he wrote it in English, then one way's right and the other isn't.
Of course, for J! purposes, the show has a nifty way of sidestepping that question entirely.
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opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:10 pmI like this one. I think it hits the sweet spot between too hard and too easy. It's possible to take note of the TOMs and make a good guess even if you don't recognize the quote.talkingaway wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:05 pm FAMOUS THINKERS
In 1954, this person wrote, "I believe in Spinoza’s god, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world."
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Who is Albert Einstein?Spoiler
It helps to know that Spinoza was a Jewish philosopher (also Dutch and Portuguese, but that's not important right now). That plus 1954 took me to the correct response with a fair degree of confidence.
Does anyone know whether the quote was written or spoken and whether it was in English or German? I ask because I notice that "god" is not capitalized. Some sources have it that way, others capitalize the word. If the quote was spoken and/or originally in German (which capitalizes EVERY noun) then it's a matter of interpretation how to transfer the quote to written English. But if he wrote it in English, then one way's right and the other isn't.
Of course, for J! purposes, the show has a nifty way of sidestepping that question entirely.
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This article says it was in a "radiogram" sent to a NY rabbi in reply to a direct question. The query and response were in German, so "Gott" is capitalized. The Times even quotes the telegram in German.
https://www.nytimes.com/1929/04/25/arch ... th-in.html
https://www.nytimes.com/1929/04/25/arch ... th-in.html
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opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 7:10 pmI like this one. I think it hits the sweet spot between too hard and too easy. It's possible to take note of the TOMs and make a good guess even if you don't recognize the quote.talkingaway wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2020 6:05 pm FAMOUS THINKERS
In 1954, this person wrote, "I believe in Spinoza’s god, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world."
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Who is Albert Einstein?Spoiler
It helps to know that Spinoza was a Jewish philosopher (also Dutch and Portuguese, but that's not important right now). That plus 1954 took me to the correct response with a fair degree of confidence.
Does anyone know whether the quote was written or spoken and whether it was in English or German? I ask because I notice that "god" is not capitalized. Some sources have it that way, others capitalize the word. If the quote was spoken and/or originally in German (which capitalizes EVERY noun) then it's a matter of interpretation how to transfer the quote to written English. But if he wrote it in English, then one way's right and the other isn't.
Of course, for J! purposes, the show has a nifty way of sidestepping that question entirely.
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It was either adding 1954 or "scientist" somewhere in the clue or category, and I decided to shield the scientist with the more generic "thinker". I actually caught the quote from NDT's repurposed-for-COVID-viewing network series Cosmos: Possible Worlds, and looked it up. The more complete version is a little more atheistic (or, perhaps more accurately, deistic) for J's middle-of-the-road viewing, but could probably be used, although it's not particularly helpful:
"I believe in Spinoza's god, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.”
The quote from a Scientific American blog didn't have "god" capitalized, but I'd be open to capitalizing it. On the big board, it wouldn't matter, as you noted.
The "Spinoza = Jewish philosopher" was exactly the TOM I was going for. (I'm sure there are other facets of his life and philosophy that are relevant, but Dutch, Jewish, and philosphy cover about 70% of his clues.) And it wouldn't be a far cry to imagine this to be "Einstein's thoughts on God" - one of his famous quotes on quantum mechanics was "God does not play dice with the universe." Or maybe he does. You have to open the box to find out.
"I believe in Spinoza's god, who reveals Himself in the lawful harmony of the world, not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.”
The quote from a Scientific American blog didn't have "god" capitalized, but I'd be open to capitalizing it. On the big board, it wouldn't matter, as you noted.
The "Spinoza = Jewish philosopher" was exactly the TOM I was going for. (I'm sure there are other facets of his life and philosophy that are relevant, but Dutch, Jewish, and philosphy cover about 70% of his clues.) And it wouldn't be a far cry to imagine this to be "Einstein's thoughts on God" - one of his famous quotes on quantum mechanics was "God does not play dice with the universe." Or maybe he does. You have to open the box to find out.