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Game Recap for Show #7040, 2015-04-03

CONTESTANTS
Pat Kavanaugh, a marketing content manager from Chicago, Illinois
Tom Imler, a data repair technician from Cary, North Carolina
Kerry Greene, a volunteer guardian ad litem from Manchester, New Hampshire (whose 2-day cash winnings total $42,802)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. This has been, so far, a week of big wins for our champions. Kerry was kind of forced into wagering a lot in yesterday's Final because she had one of the challengers very close to her and could've surpassed her. But it worked out to her advantage. And today, she faces Tom and Pat, or Pat and Tom. Welcome. Good luck. Here we go. And the categories now in play are...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
NEW ENDINGS FOR CLASSIC LIT (5/5) (Alex: You have to identify the work we have decided to extend.)
TV (5/5)
MY INTERROGATIVE (1/1)
20th CENTURY AMERICA (4/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS (5/5)
IN LIFE (4/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Tom: 11 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W (including 1 DD)
Kerry: 7 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W
Pat: 6 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 26
Triple Stumpers: 1
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $400



JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Tom found the Daily Double on the 13th clue. Kerry had $3,000, Tom had $3,200, and Pat was at $400. Tom made it a True Daily Double, wagering $3,200.

20th CENTURY AMERICA $600: Section 1 of the 18th amendment, the only one ever repealed, ends, "is hereby" this verb
(Tom: What is void?)

SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Kerry: $3,000
Pat: $400
Tom: $0

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Pat Kavanaugh is a marketing content manager from Chicago, Illinois. And she had an experience in an elevator. She was stuck there for a while.

Pat: I was trapped there for two hours. And if I had known what the rescue was gonna be, I'd probably still be there.

Alex: What happened?

Pat: They dropped a ladder down from the top--

Alex: Well, wait a minute. How many floors up or down are we talking about?

Pat: Uh, I was suspended just above the lobby, but it was an express elevator so there were no doors.

Alex: Oh.

Pat: So I had to climb up, I had to step across, and ride the top of the next elevator car up to the 21st floor. And then, get on an elevator again.

Alex: Wonder Woman!

[Laughter]

Alex: Good for you. I bet you had a little drink after that one.

Pat: I did.




Alex: Okay, Tom Imler, data repair technician. You are a Freemason.

Tom: I am, yes.

Alex: Whenever people think about Freemasonry nowadays, we think of it as something that relates to the past, not the present. Tell me what's happening.

Tom: Uh, it's still very vital. We still have--we still get a lot of young men, um, who come to us looking to join. They're interested in the history. They're interested in the fraternity of it. And, uh, we're still initiating all the time new, young members every--every year, every month, you know, a lodge is getting--somewhere is getting a new, young member.

Alex: Okay, good for you guys.




Alex: Now Kerry Greene is our champion. She is from New Hampshire, but she has lived at 38 different addresses. What was the best place?

Kerry: Well, I liked the, uh, two years in San Diego.

Alex: Ah.

Kerry: Can't complain about that.

Alex: Aha. Weather's--

Kerry: Much better than New Hampshire.

Alex: Well, very similar, very similar.

[Laughter]

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
IN LIFE $400: In common law, the age of this, signaling adulthood, is presumed to be 14 in boys & 12 in girls
(Tom: What is the age of consent?)
(Kerry: What is majority?)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Tom: $4,200
Kerry: $2,400
Pat: $2,000

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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
SELFIE OF THE ARTIST (5/5)
BIG BUSINESS (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
JOHN QUINCY ADAMS (4/5)
WORLD CAPITAL ATTRACTIONS (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
1965 NO. 1 SONGS (5/5)
ENDS WITH "W" (4/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Tom: 14 R (including 1 rebound and 2 DDs), 2 W
Kerry: 8 R (including 1 rebound), 1 W
Pat: 6 R, 0 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 2
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $3,200



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Tom snagged the next Daily Double on the 22nd clue. Kerry had $7,600, Tom had $9,400, and Pat was at $8,000. Tom wagered $2,600.

WORLD CAPITAL ATTRACTIONS $1200: The Franz Kafka Museum

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Tom who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 29th clue. Kerry had $11,600, Tom had $16,800, and Pat was at $8,000. Tom wagered $3,200.

BIG BUSINESS $1200: With assets of more than $1.6 trillion, there's no more traveling by coach for this U.S. banking leader

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
JOHN QUINCY ADAMS $1200: This cornerstone of U.S. foreign policy, delivered to Congress Dec. 2, 1823, was largely the work of John Quincy Adams

ENDS WITH "W" $2000: Hamlet says, "I am but mad north-north-west. When the wind is southerly I know a hawk from" this tool
(Tom: What is a saw?)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Tom: $20,800
Kerry: $11,600
Pat: $8,000

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
EUROPEAN HISTORY

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Crush for first place.
Tom: Wager $2,401 to cover Kerry, but no more than $4,799 so as not to fall behind Pat's doubled score.
Kerry: You have the hope of surpassing Tom if you come up with the correct response. Bet at least $9,201 to force Tom to wager to win while also protecting your position from being usurped by Pat.
Pat: Unfortunately, your score is less than the difference between the scores of the first and second place players, so unless they both blunder, you're competing for second place and have no hopes of first. Wager as much as you desire, but remember, you'll have better chances of advancing to second place if you have a larger sum left over on a Triple Stumper.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
A 3-letter 9th century tribe is in the names of 2 21st century countries: the world's most vast, & this one

FINAL SCORES
Pat: $8,000 + $5,000 = $13,000 (What is Belarus?) (2nd place)
Kerry: $11,600 + $11,598 = $23,198 (What is Bylorus?) (42803-day champion: $23,198)
Tom: $20,800 - $9,300 = $11,500 (What is Hungary?) (3rd place)
(Alex: [To Pat] Yes, the Rus.)
...
(Alex: [To Kerry] Yes, she didn't spell it, uh, in a way that, uh, we'll still accepting it, though, because the pronunciation doesn't change.)
...
(Alex: One final note before I say good-bye. In the first round of play today, we messed up rather badly in our phrasing of the clue about confirmation and communion in the Roman Catholic faith. Fortunately, it didn't affect the outcome. Nevertheless, I do want to apologize for that mistake and promise you that we will do better on Monday.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $3,600

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Tom: $20,600, 25 R (including 2 DDs), 4 W (including 1 DD)
Kerry: $11,600, 15 R, 3 W
Pat: $8,000, 12 R, 1 W
Combined Coryat: $40,200

BATTING AVERAGES
Tom: 25/61 = .410
Kerry: 16/58 = .276
Pat: 13/58 = .224
Team: 54/63 = .857

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
NEW ENDINGS FOR CLASSIC LIT $400: Samwise was back home. But then he remembered an awful thing. He'd left his keys at Mount Doom! With a sigh, he turned
(Kerry: What is Lord of the Rings?)
(Alex: Be more specific.)
(Kerry: Uh, [*]?)

NEW ENDINGS FOR CLASSIC LIT $1000: "...and his heart was going like mad and yes I said yes I will yes". Then again no maybe not I don't think so I said no
(Alex: Yeah, and you were smiling whenever I read these clues. Did you enjoy it?)
(Kerry: I appreciate the writers.)
(Alex: Thank you.)
[Applause ]
(Alex: You ran the category. You have $3,000.)

TV $800: (Dan Patrick gives the clue.) When I asked Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban to name the best product he ever invested in he mentioned Simple Sugars skin scrubs pitched by an 18-year-old on this reality show

20th CENTURY AMERICA $400: In 1975, it was the first monster truck & shared its name with an American legend

20th CENTURY AMERICA $800: These items that caused a 1983 holiday season frenzy were later immortalized on a stamp

IN LIFE $600: In the Holmes-Rahe life stress inventory, the death of a spouse is tops, while this similar outcome is second
(Pat: What is the death of a child?)

IN LIFE $800: In Catholicism this sacrament, administered on baptized persons at least age 7, allows you to take communion
[After Final Jeopardy!, Alex said that "we messed up rather badly in our phrasing of the clue about confirmation and communion in the Roman Catholic faith. Fortunately, it didn't affect the outcome. Nevertheless, I do want to apologize for that mistake".]

IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS $200: Seen here are strands of this genetic coder whose structure was determined by Watson & Crick

IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS $400: This small but heavy device adds weight to help your fishing line drop
(Alex: ...with less than a minute to go.)

IT'S THE LITTLE THINGS $1000: (Sarah of the Clue Crew delivers the clue from the Sanford Underground Research Facility in South Dakota.) The Davis Campus deep in South Dakota's old Homestake Mine is named for Ray Davis, who won a Nobel Prize using the mine as a place to detect these subatomic particles with no electric charge
(Kerry: What are neutrons?)

MY INTERROGATIVE $200: "And" this interrogative is an informal way of saying "you bet!"
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

BIG BUSINESS $400: In 2009 this company had orders for 263 commercial planes; in 2013, for 1,531
(Kerry: What is Airbus?)

SELFIE OF THE ARTIST $400: Here's a 1659 work by & of this Dutch boy, who rarely said no to painting a selfie

SELFIE OF THE ARTIST $800: He completed the self portrait here in August 1889, less than a year before his death

SELFIE OF THE ARTIST $1200: Childhood accidents & disease robbed him of leg growth, perhaps explaining the angle of this Frenchman's selfie

SELFIE OF THE ARTIST $1600: This Spanish artist painted himself in 1820 being treated by his friend, Dr. Arrieta

SELFIE OF THE ARTIST $2000: This British artist of "The Blue Boy", captured himself as a boy around age 12

ENDS WITH "W" $800: It's the sweet favorite seen here

JOHN QUINCY ADAMS $2000: Adams was elected to the House of Reps in 1830 with the support of this third party that opposed a secret society
[Laughter at Tom's response, given his interview story about being a Freemason]

BIG BUSINESS $2000: Gaming company SJM Holdings has billions in assets, including 17 casinos it operates in this Asian territory
(Tom: What is Hong Kong?)

CORRECT RESPONSES
prohibited
puberty
Prague (Czech Republic)
Wells Fargo
the Monroe doctrine
a hand saw
Belarus
The Return of the King
Ulysses
Shark Tank
Bigfoot
Cabbage Patch Kids
divorce
confirmation
DNA
a sinker
neutrinos
how
Boeing
Rembrandt
van Gogh
Toulouse-Lautrec
Goya
Gainsborough
honeydew
the Anti-Masonic Party
Macau

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European History
A 3-letter 9th century tribe is in the names of 2 21st century countries: the world's most vast, & this one.

Spoiler
What is Belarus? Tom said Hungary. (Kerry spelled it "Byelorus", which was accepted.)

Tom Imler: $20,800-$9,300=$11,500
Kerry Greene: $11,600+$11,598=$23,198...now a 3-day champion with $66,000
Pat Kavanaugh: $8,000+$5,000=$13,000
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I don't remember there ever being an apology from AT at the end of a game for a bad clue. I hope this is a new precedent.

Good play from the three contestants. I'll bet the second-place finisher wishes he'd made the game a lock with that Wells Fargo DD.

FJ was an instaget. I absentmindedly said "Russia and Belarus." I wonder if that would have flown.

I think it's pretty amazing that the three largest banks in the USA each have over a trillion dollars in deposits, yet two of the three are about a billion dollars apart, or 1/10 of 1%.
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Well done Kerry on staying within catching distance of a very good challenger. I would not have been happy to have him back on Monday taking so long to pick a frickin' clue every time.

I did pretty poorly, no runs (i said Santiago instead of Oslo). Instaget FJ though, making it two 4/5s in a row for me which I'm pretty happy about.

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Adding "the world's most vast" imho made it too easy, taking it out of FJ! quality material.

And yeah, I agree that "apology" at the end was rather odd, especially since it was apologizing for a first-round clue, had plenty of opportunity (end of J! round, beginning of DJ!, end of DJ!, start of Final) to do it ...
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dhkendall wrote:Adding "the world's most vast" imho made it too easy, taking it out of FJ! quality material.
Probably...but I'd bet if they hadn't included it, it would've been a TS with all 3 of them saying Hungary.

Instaget FJ.

Looked like she got stuck halfway between Belarus and Byelorussia. If there's a legit reason to accept her answer, no sweat. "Doesn't change the pronunciation", though? Have I been pronouncing 'Belarus' incorrectly? Do the natives pronounce it differently?
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Should have been a neg for "You've Lost That Loving Feeling".

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Congratulations, Kerry, on your third win, although Tom also played really well but he couldn't get FJ. I had 39 correct responses including two triple stumpers: puberty and Monroe Doctrine. I ran the "1965 #1 Songs" category. I also got FJ.

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xxaaaxx wrote:
dhkendall wrote:Adding "the world's most vast" imho made it too easy, taking it out of FJ! quality material.
Probably...but I'd bet if they hadn't included it, it would've been a TS with all 3 of them saying Hungary.

Instaget FJ.

Looked like she got stuck halfway between Belarus and Byelorussia. If there's a legit reason to accept her answer, no sweat. "Doesn't change the pronunciation", though? Have I been pronouncing 'Belarus' incorrectly? Do the natives pronounce it differently?
It looked like she was doing a mash-up of the old Byelorussia SSR and Belarus. Certainly in English they're not the same, don't know about natives. Although she clearly knew the country, I wouldn't have given it to her.

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Interesting, fun game. Funny, my wife and I are both products of Catholic education, and we both said, "Whaaat?" at the Confirmation question. That was one big honking error, IMHO.

Nice to see the N.H. gal come back for Monday.

FJ was an Instaget for me, but I thought the clue was poorly written. It didn't seem clear, to me at least, if they were asking for both countries, or just Belarus.
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I wonder how long before Tom's "age of consent" response ends up on Youtube.

For the second game in a row there was an easy geography category. I can get used to that.

I blanked on FJ. There was no excuse for missing that one.

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I hate to be the one to play armchair judge and say "bad call," but that's a bad call. Byelaros shouldn't have counted. On the other hand, I'd argue that Tom really should have bet to win on Wells Fargo. He was doing well in the category IIRC and had enough of a lead to go for it. So maybe it all cancels out, knowing that Tom had the power to end the game and didn't use it. Compelling match all around and full respect to all three players.
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I enjoyed the meaningless 3200 wager on the second DD, when it was somewhat low risk to guarantee himself 1st.

What I enjoyed even more was his Final wager, wagering himself right out of a guaranteed 2nd.

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Stefani was my only get in TV.

Surprised myself by getting all but Four Tops in 1965. Also all but handsaw in W.

Lach Trash: Prohibited.

Why is "saw" -> "handsaw" an outright neg and not a BMS?

Hmm, try big countries. China? Nope. India? Nope. United States, don't be ridiculous. I think that's all of them, so I'm stumped. Oops. I knew the Belarus/Russia connection, but I just couldn't see Russia from my house. I love how it's always the one thing I don't think of that's right.
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floridagator wrote:I don't remember there ever being an apology from AT at the end of a game for a bad clue. I hope this is a new precedent.
That clue hit home for me, because I will be going through Adult Confirmation next month, Pentecost weekend. I have been studying about the sacrament and noticed immediately that the clue was wrong. I think that age 12 is the standard Confirmation age for kids. BTW, my guess was Reconciliation/Penance. It was bugging me for the next 20 minutes. That said, I'm glad that Alex made the announcement at the end of the game. I've never seen that before. My suspicion is that a the live audience crowd may have contained a practicing Catholic who called the matter to the attention of the J! crew.
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You know, now that I think of it, this may have been one of the most train-wreck games of Jeopardy in a while. From the "age of consent" gaffe to confirmation/Eucharist to the questionable DD wager to the controversy at Final. Very strange, and very fascinating.
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Hmm, try big countries. China? Nope. India? Nope. United States, don't be ridiculous. I think that's all of them, so I'm stumped. Oops. I knew the Belarus/Russia connection, but I just couldn't see Russia from my house. I love how it's always the one thing I don't think of that's right.
I think either the clue or the category mentioned Europe, so your guesses were out. Besides "most vast" is a superlative, pinning it to just one country.
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dhkendall wrote:And yeah, I agree that "apology" at the end was rather odd, especially since it was apologizing for a first-round clue, had plenty of opportunity (end of J! round, beginning of DJ!, end of DJ!, start of Final) to do it ...
What apology did I miss?
It was well after the champion was crowned and people were applauding. I had already stopped my tape and had to watch the rest to get it after reading about it here. (Thank goodness it was Friday as I usually delete right after watching but I keep Friday's games until I Archive them.). To be more specific he said the Catholic clue was badly worded (somehow, he didn't say and I still haven't picked up how) but it didn't result in any score changes.
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Vanya will know better than I, but I think Byelorus is pretty close to the way it's pronounced in the country.

Also, I presume the apology was taped some time later, wearing the clothes that matched what he was wearing during the game. He also sometimes re-records mispronounced or slightly bungled clue readings after games and they use the re-record for the version that's broadcast.

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Leah wrote:Vanya will know better than I, but I think Byelorus is pretty close to the way it's pronounced in the country.

Also, I presume the apology was taped some time later, wearing the clothes that matched what he was wearing during the game. He also sometimes re-records mispronounced or slightly bungled clue readings after games and they use the re-record for the version that's broadcast.
If it was, they did a great job because it seemed like the audience realized Alex had something to say and stopped applauding.

Can Kerry or anyone present confirm?

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