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Game Recap for Show #7086, 2015-06-08

CONTESTANTS
Craig Moysey, a business specialist originally from Brockville, Ontario, Canada
Sally Wright, an antiques dealer from Los Angeles, California
Chris Wonderly, a visual information specialist originally from Kansas City, Missouri (whose 1-day cash winnings total $15,900)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thanks, Johnny. Ah, a group of young people in our audience today. Great. Welcome. Another half hour of answers and questions for you and for these three players, including our newcomers, Sally and Craig. Good to have you with us, and good luck to all three of you. Here comes the Jeopardy! Round, and here come the categories, starting off with...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
HEALTH-RELATED ORGANIZATIONS (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
THE CENTURY OF THE CRIME (5/5)
"EA" NON-SPORTS (5/5)
HEAVY (5/5)
METAL (4/5)
SOFT ROCK (4/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Chris: 13 R, 0 W
Craig: 9 R, 0 W
Sally: 6 R (including 1 DD), 0 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 2
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $1,600



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Craig: $4,400
Chris: $3,600
Sally: $200

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: It's always fun when you get to meet famous people. Craig Moysey was in London and met someone very famous.

Craig: Yes, I was at, uh, the Tower of London on what happened to be Commonwealth Day and met Prince Charles. He came down the path and me and my friend happened to be right there and shook his hand and greeted him. I guess he greeted us, but...

Alex: Uh-huh. Was it a good experience? What--what did you guys talk about? He's into architecture and, uh...

Craig: Yeah, we talked a little about the surroundings we were in. We were at the Tower and all of the history that happened there, but there's a lot of people with him kind of pushing him along, making sure no one took too much of his time.

Alex: And there would have been a lot of people there visiting the Tower that day, also.

Craig: Exactly.




Alex: All right, Sally Wright is from Los Angeles. She is an antiques dealer who was once an appraiser on PBS's Antiques Roadshow.

Sally: I was in 1999, the first time they came to Los Angeles.

Alex: Specializing in what?

Sally: I was on the works of art table and later on, the porcelain table.

Alex: And of all of the people who came by that you were in contact with, did any one of them have an item that would be worth a million bucks?

Sally: Absolutely not.

[Laughter]

Alex: Thank you. All right.




Alex: Chris Wonderly is our champion, folks. Not only is he bright, he's a swing dancer.

Chris: That's right.

Alex: And you enjoy it, and you do it how many times a week?

Chris: Oh, boy, where I live right now, it could be many months in between, unfortunately.

Alex: Really?

Chris: But I try to go as often as I can.

Alex: How did you get into that?

Chris: Uh, got interested in the late '90s when swing music kind of came back and then started taking lessons in 2010 and got hooked.

Alex: Kind of fun, isn't it?

Chris: It is.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Sally found the Daily Double on the 22nd clue. Chris had $4,200, Sally had $2,200, and Craig was at $5,000. Sally wagered $500.

HEALTH-RELATED ORGANIZATIONS $400: It was named for coins sent to the White House during FDR's presidency for an annual fundraising drive

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
METAL $800: Noted for its natural magnetism, magnetite is an important ore of this metal

SOFT ROCK $800: In the '80s this duo had a string of hits beginning with "Lost In Love" & "All Out Of Love"

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Chris: $7,000
Craig: $5,000
Sally: $4,500

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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
ONLY THE LONELY (3/4)
AMERICAN QUOTATIONS (3/5)
THE STARS (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
COURT-LY LOVE (4/5)
WORLD FACTS (4/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
CELEBRITY FILL-INS (2/5) (Alex: That's a new one for us.)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Craig: 8 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W
Chris: 10 R (including 3 rebounds and 1 DD), 4 W (including 1 DD)
Sally: 4 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W

Clues revealed: 29
Triple Stumpers: 7
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $10,000



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Chris snagged the next Daily Double on the 8th clue. Chris had $8,200, Sally had $4,100, and Craig was at $4,200. Chris wagered $2,000.

WORLD FACTS $1200: It makes sense that the Great Barrier Reef Marine Park is in this sea
(Chris: What is the Barrier Sea?)

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Chris who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 14th clue. Chris had $9,400, Sally had $6,100, and Craig was at $3,800. Chris wagered $4,000.

THE STARS $1600: In 1862 Alvan Clark discovered that this bright star has a companion called "The Pup"

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
CELEBRITY FILL-INS $1200: Jennifer
____
____
Swift

CELEBRITY FILL-INS $1600: Barney
____
____
Spray

CELEBRITY FILL-INS $2000: Meg
____
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Black
(Craig: Ohh, who is Ryan Jack? [Laughs])

AMERICAN QUOTATIONS $800: A line credited to this humorist is "I don't make jokes--I just watch the government and report the facts"
(Chris: Who is Jon Stewart?)

AMERICAN QUOTATIONS $2000: John Adams wrote this "makes a greater difference between man and man than nature has made between man and brute"

ONLY THE LONELY $800: Hinduism's stages of life: student, husband, this solitary, ascetic recluse
(Chris: What is monk?)

COURT-LY LOVE $1600: This poem by Longfellow recounted John Alden's wooing of a woman for another man

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Chris: $14,200
Sally: $9,700
Craig: $9,000

PREFINAL REMARKS
Alex: During the break, Craig's score was adjusted upward by $800 because our judges have determined that his response of "exodus" a little while ago was just as good as "exile".

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
LITERARY CHARACTERS

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
First equals second plus half of third. Stratton's Dilemma.
Chris: Wager $5,200--wagering any more risks falling behind Craig's wager of $0.
Sally: Risk all $9,700 for the win or tie if you give the correct response (and provided Chris doesn't wager to cover by $1). You are in Stratton's Dilemma
, calling for a wager of more than $8,300 (to shut out Craig) or less than $700 (risking the possibility of being passed from behind by Craig). Go with the smaller bet if you believe a Triple Stumper is more likely than a singleton miss by Chris.
Craig: Anticipating that Chris will wager for the tie rather than to cover by $1, and that Sally will wager everything, you should bet nothing, and you will tie for the win on the Triple Stumper.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
This name made famous in a 17th century novel is derived from the Spanish for "sweet"

FINAL SCORES
Craig: $9,000 - $0 = $9,000 (What is Casanova) (3rd place)
Sally: $9,700 + $9,600 = $19,300 (What is Dulcinea) (2nd place)
Chris: $14,200 + $5,500 = $19,700 (What is Dulcinea?) (15901-day champion: $19,700)
(Alex: She started out as Aldonza, but then her name was changed by a famous literary character.)
...
(Alex: [To Sally] Yes, she was named that by Don Quixote.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $11,600

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Chris: $13,800, 23 R (including 1 DD), 4 W (including 1 DD)
Sally: $9,600, 10 R (including 1 DD), 2 W
Craig: $9,000, 17 R, 2 W
Combined Coryat: $32,400

BATTING AVERAGES
Chris: 24/60 = .400
Craig: 17/58 = .293
Sally: 11/59 = .186
Team: 52/63 = .825

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
HEALTH-RELATED ORGANIZATIONS $200: Go Red for Women is a campaign created by this organization to encourage women to take charge of their cardio health
(Sally: The Heart As--what is the Heart Association?)
(Alex: Mm. Give me a little more.)

THE CENTURY OF THE CRIME $1000: William Wallace is condemned as a traitor, though he said he never swore allegiance to Edward
(Alex: Happened in 1305.)

METAL $600: Legend says that the metal used to make these highest British military awards came from cannons captured in the Crimean War

METAL $1000: In 1252 in Kamakura, Japan, all 93 tons of the Daibutsu, or Great Buddha, was cast in this alloy

HEALTH-RELATED ORGANIZATIONS $1000: This organization, the NKF for short, asks that you consider being a living donor
(Alex: You are right again, and we have less than a minute now to deal with SOFT ROCK.)

WORLD FACTS $400: It's the smallest of the Great Lakes by surface area & the one farthest east
(Sally: What is Lake Erie?)

THE STARS $1200: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew shows an astronomical image on the monitor.) Located in the small Magellanic Cloud, the infant stars seen here are but 3 to 5 million years old & haven't even begun to burn this element in their cores yet
(Craig: What is helium?)

ONLY THE LONELY $400: In the 500s B.C. the Jews were in the Babylonian this type of expulsion from one's land
(Sally: What is captivity?)
(Craig: What is exodus?)
[Originally ruled incorrect; reversed before Final Jeopardy!]

ONLY THE LONELY $1600: Someone abandoned by society; you can also be this "in your duty"
(Chris: What is bereft?)
...
(Alex: Less than a minute now, Sally, as you make your selection.)

CORRECT RESPONSES
the March of Dimes
iron
Air Supply
the Coral Sea
Sirius
Lawrence Taylor
Frank Ocean
Ryan Lewis
Will Rogers
education
hermit
The Courtship of Miles Standish
Dulcinea
the American Heart Association
the 14th century
the Victoria Cross
bronze
the National Kidney Foundation
Ontario
hydrogen
exile
derelict (delinquent accepted)

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HOmetown Howdies said that the 6/5 returning champ Chris Wonderly would be on today's show, rather than saying the returning champ would appear on a day other than MOnday(whether or not the champ would in fact be on on a day later than Monday in the week), which they've been doing in recent weeks, sometimes spoiling who wins a game or more, sometimes not.

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Literary Characters
This name made famous in a 17th Century novel is derived from the Spanish for "sweet".


Spoiler
What is Dulcinea? Craig said Casanova.


Chris Wonderly: $14,200+$5,500=$19,700...now a 2-day champion with $35,600
Sally Wright: $9,700+$9,600=$19,300
Craig Moysey: $9,000-$0=$9,000
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Well, I was much closer than I thought I was. Knowing that "dulce" is Spanish for "sweet" and the only 16th century Spanish novel I knew of was Don Quixote, I was ever so close, but unfortunately the title character and Sancho Panza are the only characters I knew of, NHO Dulcinea at all. (My guess was the title character himself, his name is closer to "dulce" than Panza's is.)
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My cable box had the hiccups again. Stupid rain.

0/5 on Heavy. I know literally nothing about All Quiet on the Western Front except for its title, so if that's $200, then I know I'm hosed.

Also 0/5 in Century of the Crime, without a guess.

Oddly, American Heart Association was my only miss in Health. Had Alex asked me to BMS "Heart Association", then I would've come up completely blank.

"No, Metal for $200 can't be silver and gold; it's totally gonna be a trap. Nope, not gonna guess it. Total trap… wait, it was silver and gold?!"

WLT exile on Lonely for $400? I thought the clue was very wide open, as seen by the two semi-close negs. I thought the whole category was kind of Sheldon Cooper-ish and vague. The overturn on "exodus" only drives home how nebulous $400 was.

I could've stared at Quotations for a month and never thought to KISS and say "tax".

3/5 in Stars. No guess on hydrogen, clammed on Southern Cross.

I was even further off than Jon Stewart on Quotations for $800 by WAGging Colbert. Oops.

Spanish for "sweet" -> dulce -> I have no earthly idea. Been a long time since I've had one of those "halfway there" moments. NHO Dulcinea.
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Category: ONLY THE LONELY
Clue: IN THE 500s B.C. THE JEWS WERE IN THE BABYLONIAN THIS TYPE OF EXPULSION FROM ONE'S OWN LAND

Sally rings in and guesses "captivity". No.

Craig rings in and guesses "exodus". No.

Chris rings in and guesses "exile". Yes.

Then, before FJ, they adjust the scores to credit Craig with a correct response. Fine. It's not a great response, but I guess "exodus" could be used to refer to an expulsion from one's own land. I'm cool with that. But how the HECK do they not reverse themselves on Sally's response of "captivity" as well? I know a captivity isn't really an expulsion, but neither is an exodus. Furthermore, the Babylonian exile is referred to REPEATEDLY as a "captivity" in the Bible. It is NOT referred to as an exodus. The only exodus you get is when the Israelites leave somewhere that ISN'T their own land to return to the home God promised them. THE VERY HOME IN WHICH THEY WERE CENTURIES LATER PUT UNDER CAPTIVITY AND EXILED TO BABYLON. WEARING THE VERY PANTS THEY WERE GOING TO RETURN.

Sorry. I got off track. Where was I? Oh yeah. When Sally was negged for "captivity," I was sure that ruling would be reversed. When Alex announced the reversal for Craig's response, I was even more sure. Craig's response was marginally acceptable at best. If he gets credit, a fortiori, Sally gets credit for her straight up correct (even if not quite as good a fit as "exile") response.

I was flabbergasted when Craig got credit and Sally didn't. Am I missing something obvious here? The category wasn't "EX" WORDS or anything like that. Good thing this didn't affect the outcome.

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opusthepenguin wrote:Category: ONLY THE LONELY
Clue: IN THE 500s B.C. THE JEWS WERE IN THE BABYLONIAN THIS TYPE OF EXPULSION FROM ONE'S OWN LAND

Sally rings in and guesses "captivity". No.

Craig rings in and guesses "exodus". No.

Chris rings in and guesses "exile". Yes.

Then, before FJ, they adjust the scores to credit Craig with a correct response. Fine. It's not a great response, but I guess "exodus" could be used to refer to an expulsion from one's own land. I'm cool with that. But how the HECK do they not reverse themselves on Sally's response of "captivity" as well? I know a captivity isn't really an expulsion, but neither is an exodus. Furthermore, the Babylonian exile is referred to REPEATEDLY as a "captivity" in the Bible. It is NOT referred to as an exodus. The only exodus you get is when the Israelites leave somewhere that ISN'T their own land to return to the home God promised them. THE VERY HOME IN WHICH THEY WERE CENTURIES LATER PUT UNDER CAPTIVITY AND EXILED TO BABYLON. WEARING THE VERY PANTS THEY WERE GOING TO RETURN.

Sorry. I got off track. Where was I? Oh yeah. When Sally was negged for "captivity," I was sure that ruling would be reversed. When Alex announced the reversal for Craig's response, I was even more sure. Craig's response was marginally acceptable at best. If he gets credit, a fortiori, Sally gets credit for her straight up correct (even if not quite as good a fit as "exile") response.

I was flabbergasted when Craig got credit and Sally didn't. Am I missing something obvious here? The category wasn't "EX" WORDS or anything like that. Good thing this didn't affect the outcome.
And they usually wipe out a wrong if a prior response is ruled as correct, don't they?

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econgator wrote:
opusthepenguin wrote:Sally rings in and guesses "captivity". No.

Craig rings in and guesses "exodus". No.

Chris rings in and guesses "exile". Yes.
And they usually wipe out a wrong if a prior response is ruled as correct, don't they?
Yeah but Sally made the mistake of being wrong first.

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Chris played well again; congratulations to him on his second win. I had 48 correct responses including three triple stumpers: iron, Air Supply, and Will Rogers. I also got the missed DD of Coral Sea. Instaget FJ.

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opusthepenguin wrote:
econgator wrote:
opusthepenguin wrote:Sally rings in and guesses "captivity". No.

Craig rings in and guesses "exodus". No.

Chris rings in and guesses "exile". Yes.
And they usually wipe out a wrong if a prior response is ruled as correct, don't they?
Yeah but Sally made the mistake of being wrong first.
Oh yeah. Don't know what the heck I was thinking. It's not like you listed the ring-in order in your post ... :?

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opusthepenguin wrote:Category: ONLY THE LONELY
Clue: IN THE 500s B.C. THE JEWS WERE IN THE BABYLONIAN THIS TYPE OF EXPULSION FROM ONE'S OWN LAND

Sally rings in and guesses "captivity". No.

Craig rings in and guesses "exodus". No.

Chris rings in and guesses "exile". Yes.

Then, before FJ, they adjust the scores to credit Craig with a correct response. Fine. It's not a great response, but I guess "exodus" could be used to refer to an expulsion from one's own land. I'm cool with that. But how the HECK do they not reverse themselves on Sally's response of "captivity" as well? I know a captivity isn't really an expulsion, but neither is an exodus. Furthermore, the Babylonian exile is referred to REPEATEDLY as a "captivity" in the Bible. It is NOT referred to as an exodus. The only exodus you get is when the Israelites leave somewhere that ISN'T their own land to return to the home God promised them. THE VERY HOME IN WHICH THEY WERE CENTURIES LATER PUT UNDER CAPTIVITY AND EXILED TO BABYLON. WEARING THE VERY PANTS THEY WERE GOING TO RETURN.

Sorry. I got off track. Where was I? Oh yeah. When Sally was negged for "captivity," I was sure that ruling would be reversed. When Alex announced the reversal for Craig's response, I was even more sure. Craig's response was marginally acceptable at best. If he gets credit, a fortiori, Sally gets credit for her straight up correct (even if not quite as good a fit as "exile") response.

I was flabbergasted when Craig got credit and Sally didn't. Am I missing something obvious here? The category wasn't "EX" WORDS or anything like that. Good thing this didn't affect the outcome.
I agree. I was surprised that they did not credit Sally for "(Babylonian) Captivity." Once again, the judges surprise in their rulings.

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I believe that Chris put Margaret Court's maiden and married surnames in the wrong order. Court should come before Smith. Oh well, no neg.

Lach Trash: Air Supply, Coral Sea (DD), Will Rogers.

As for FJ, I need to dig deeper with my literature. :?:
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dhkendall wrote:Well, I was much closer than I thought I was. Knowing that "dulce" is Spanish for "sweet" and the only 16th century Spanish novel I knew of was Don Quixote, I was ever so close, but unfortunately the title character and Sancho Panza are the only characters I knew of, NHO Dulcinea at all. (My guess was the title character himself, his name is closer to "dulce" than Panza's is.)
I also got to "dulce", but not being familiar with Don Quixote, couldn't make the connection to the correct response.

I also didn't initially catch that the adjustment yielded the same wagering scenario as the first semifinal of the last ToC (third = twice the difference between first and second). I wonder if Chris needed 15 minutes to come up with his wager?

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dhkendall wrote:Well, I was much closer than I thought I was. Knowing that "dulce" is Spanish for "sweet" and the only 16th century Spanish novel I knew of was Don Quixote, I was ever so close, but unfortunately the title character and Sancho Panza are the only characters I knew of, NHO Dulcinea at all. (My guess was the title character himself, his name is closer to "dulce" than Panza's is.)
Same here. I figured they were going for Don Quixote's girlfriend, but I had no idea what her name was. So I went the same route as Craig and said Don Juan.

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Ryno wrote:I believe that Chris put Margaret Court's maiden and married surnames in the wrong order. Court should come before Smith. Oh well, no neg.
Nope. She was Margaret Smith Court. Maybe you're thinking of Margaret Chase Smith?

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The Coral Sea followed by San Marino? This was a game made for me! Relatively easy clues but well-played by all three. Easy FJ for me since "sweet" led me to a lady.

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32 right.

Health (1), Century (4), "EA" (3), Heavy (4), Metal (2), Soft Rock (4)
Lonely (1), American (2), Star (5), Court (3), Fact (2), Fill-In (1)

No Lach Trash.

I got to Don Quixote, but I am not familiar with Dulcinea.

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I think having seen Man of La Mancha, which has a song named Dulcinea, helped me on this one.

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I thought this game was fairly tough. I had $22,600 (33 R/ 2 W) and 2/3 DD's. I said "Tasman Sea" instead of Coral and it would've cost me a lot of money. Final was actually easy, but not an instaget. I've never read Don Quixote, but I have seen the Wishbone (over 15 years ago) and was able to make the connection from dulce to Dulcinea.
I wonder if they would've accepted "diaspora" for the exile clue. I marked it as a neg anyway.
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