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Tuesday, November 1, 2016 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

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Game Recap for Show #7392, 2016-11-01

CONTESTANTS
Denver Wade, an English teacher from Westfield, Indiana
Vivek Ravishanker, a freelance consultant from Higganum, Connecticut
Thea Lawton, a nonprofit resource development specialist from Anchorage, Alaska (whose 1-day cash winnings total $24,400)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Hi, folks. Welcome to our show. People often ask me, "What do the contestants and you talk about at the end of each game?" Well, at the end of yesterday's program, just after Thea had won the game, I walked up to her and I said, "Boy, you really came to play today." But that might also apply to our two challengers today, Vivek and Denver. Let's see how it all works out. Good luck. Here we go.

Categories are...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
NASCAR FROM THE DRIVER'S SEAT (5/5)
GEOGRAPHIC NICKNAMES (4/5)
ADVERTISING (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
THAT'S AWFUL GRIMM (3/5)
YOU'RE THE TOP (5/5)
E BEFORE I, BUT NO C DO I SPY (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Thea: 8 R (including 1 rebound), 0 W
Vivek: 9 R, 1 W
Denver: 8 R, 1 W (including 1 DD)

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 4
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,800



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Thea: $3,600
Denver: $1,800
Vivek: $800

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Denver Wade is from Indiana. He's an English teacher, but he taught American football in Sicily. Where?

Denver: That's right. I coached for the Catania Elephants, an American football team based out of Sicily. There's a big subculture of football lovers over there, and they recruit American players and coaches.

Alex: Oh, good. Must be a lot of fun.

Denver: Amazing.




Alex: Vivek Ravishanker, from Higganum?

Vivek: That's right.

Alex: Higganum, Connecticut. Used to live in Las Vegas. And you were very close to a workout area for Cirque du Soleil performers, I understand.

Vivek: Yeah, my office was right outside the Cirque du Soleil, and so you can imagine the kinds of folks you're going to run into in the cafeteria for lunch and dinner. Acrobats, circus performers, blackjack dealers, so on and so forth.

Alex: Uh-huh.

Vivek: It was a great experience.

Alex: Good for you.




Alex: Thea Lawton is our champion. She is from Anchorage, Alaska. And every summer, she and her family go dipnetting?

Thea: We do. You have to be an Alaska resident.

Alex: Ah.

Thea: But basically, you're putting on kind of a Neoprene dry suit, got a net on a long metal stick. You wade out into the surf, and you scoop up the salmon before they can get back from the sea to the river.

Alex: I went fishing for salmon with my family a few years ago, and we caught a couple of fish that were about this big.

[Alex gestures with his hands shoulder-width apart]

Alex: And I worked it out. It's about $780 a pound.

[Laughter]

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Denver found the Daily Double on the 25th clue. Thea had $4,400, Vivek had $3,600, and Denver was at $2,600. Denver made it a True Daily Double, wagering $2,600.

ADVERTISING $1000: One ad in the Clio Hall of Fame is the 1993 "Got Milk?" commercial named for this man born in 1756
(Alex: Denver?)
(Denver: Who is Alexander Hamilton?)
(Alex: Gosh, you're so close. Who is his nemesis, [*].)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
THAT'S AWFUL GRIMM $400: The final words in "The Death of the Little" this, a female domestic fowl-- "and then everyone was dead"

THAT'S AWFUL GRIMM $800: "The Twelve Brothers" ends with this "wicked" relative "put into a barrel filled with boiling oil and venomous snakes"

GEOGRAPHIC NICKNAMES $1000: German city that's "The Mother of Diets"

ADVERTISING $600: Ads asked, "How about a nice" one of these, the name of a drink brand

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Vivek: $4,600
Thea: $4,400
Denver: $2,000
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DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
REPTILES (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
THE 19th CENTURY (3/5)
MISS-ING YOU (5/5)
PULITZER PRIZE WINNERS (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
CAN I HAVE A WORD? (4/5)
MTV MOVIE AWARDS: BEST KISS WINNERS (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Thea: 13 R, 2 W
Vivek: 10 R (including 2 DDs), 2 W
Denver: 4 R (including 1 rebound), 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 3
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,800



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Vivek snagged the next Daily Double on the 8th clue. Thea had $9,600, Vivek had $6,200, and Denver was at $2,400. Vivek wagered $3,000.

PULITZER PRIZE WINNERS $1200: The Washington Post shared a 2014 Pulitzer for revealing widespread secret surveillance by this govt. agency

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Vivek who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 28th clue. Thea had $15,600, Vivek had $14,000, and Denver was at $5,600. Vivek wagered $3,200.

REPTILES $1200: This lizard was discovered in 1910 by Lt. Van Hensbroek on the Indonesian island for which it's named

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
CAN I HAVE A WORD? $1200: If something is hippocrepian, it's shaped like one of these metal objects

THE 19th CENTURY $400: In 1805 a pharmacy assistant isolated morphine from this 10-times-weaker narcotic substance
(Vivek: What is heroin?)

THE 19th CENTURY $1200: What we call this 1853 "Purchase" is known in Mexico as La Venta de la Mesilla
(Thea: What is the Louisiana Purchase?)
(Denver: What is the Alaskan Purchase?)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Thea: $19,200
Vivek: $17,200
Denver: $5,600

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
EUROPEAN COUNTRIES

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Four-fifths for first place. Shore's Conjecture.
Thea: Wager $15,201 to cover Vivek. If you feel like using Shoretegy, try wagering $4,001.
Vivek: Your score is within 4/5ths of Thea's, so wager between $4,001 (venusian) and $5,999 (martian), beating Thea's maximum safe bet of the difference between your scores while still covering against a doubled score on Denver's part.
Denver: There's no way you can cover a rational wager by Vivek, but if Vivek decides for some reason to wager everything, you can eke out a win on a Triple Stumper if you wager no more than $1,600.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
This nation joined the Warsaw Pact in 1955 & NATO in 2009, & was alphabetically first in each

FINAL SCORES
Denver: $5,600 + $5,600 = $11,200 (What is Albania?) (2nd place)
Vivek: $17,200 + $5,999 = $23,199 (What is Albania?) (New champion: $23,199)
Thea: $19,200 - $17,300 = $1,900 (What is France?) (3rd place)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $5,600

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Thea: $19,200, 21 R, 2 W
Vivek: $13,400, 19 R (including 2 DDs), 3 W
Denver: $8,200, 12 R, 2 W (including 1 DD)
Combined Coryat: $40,800

BATTING AVERAGES
Thea: 21/58 = .362
Vivek: 20/60 = .333
Denver: 13/59 = .220
Team: 54/63 = .857

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
THAT'S AWFUL GRIMM $600: When 2 girls get too rough playing with a bear, the bear says, this girl & "Rose-red, will you beat your wooer dead?"
(Vivek: Who is Goldilocks?)

YOU'RE THE TOP $800: Consumed by may each morning, this alkaloid is the most widely used psychoactive substance in the world
(Thea: What is coffee, or--)
(Alex: No.)
(Thea: [*]?)
(Alex: Oh, okay. You corrected yourself in time.)

E BEFORE I, BUT NO C DO I SPY $600: It's the soothing color in use here

NASCAR FROM THE DRIVER'S SEAT $200: (I'm Joey Logano.) In 2015 I won my first Daytona 500 after some drama: a crash with 3 laps to go & then one of these--when the green flag waves & we hit the gas again
(Alex: With less than a minute.)

NASCAR FROM THE DRIVER'S SEAT $400: (I'm Matt Kenseth.) In 2000 I became the first rookie to win the Coca-Cola 600 & beat out this son of a legendary driver for Rookie of the Year honors

NASCAR FROM THE DRIVER'S SEAT $600: Smoke gets in the other drivers' eyes when this champion and team owner hits the track

NASCAR FROM THE DRIVER'S SEAT $800: (I'm Brad Keselowski.) In 2009 the first lap I ever led in a Sprint Cup race was the winning one at the Aaron's 499 in this city that's familiar to the fans of Ricky Bobby

NASCAR FROM THE DRIVER'S SEAT $1000: (I'm Chase Elliott.) In 2016 I followed in the footsteps of this NASCAR legend by taking over behind the wheel of the 24 car when he retired from a cup career that began in 1992

PULITZER PRIZE WINNERS $800: (I'm Jonathan Capehart of The Washington Post.) As part of a New York Daily News team, I won a 1999 Pulitzer for an editorial series that helped rescue this historical Harlem theater from financial mismanagement that had threatened its survival

MTV MOVIE AWARDS: BEST KISS WINNERS $1600: 1999: Joseph Fiennes & her
(Vivek: Who is Thompson?)
(Thea: [*].)
...
(Alex: Yes. I have to rule against you because you did not phrase it in the form of a question.)

REPTILES $400: Chelonoidis nigra is the scientific name of a tortoise that lives in this island group
(Alex: With less than a minute to go now.)

REPTILES $800: Also a feathery fashion accessory, it's a variety of constricting snake

REPTILES $1600: The bite of this lizard is venomous and painful, but thankfully not deadly to humans

CORRECT RESPONSES
Aaron Burr
the hen
the stepmother
Wurms
Hawaiian Punch
the NSA
the Komodo dragon
a horseshoe
opium
the Gadsden Purchase
Albania
Snow White
caffeine
beige
a restart
Dale Earnhardt, Jr.
Tony Stewart
Talladega
Jeff Gordon
the Apollo
Gwyneth Patlrow
the Galápagos
a boa
the Gila monster
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Final Jeopardy! Round

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FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
EUROPEAN COUNTRIES

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
This nation joined the Warsaw Pact in 1955 & NATO in 2009, & was alphabetically first in each

Thea Lawton: 19200-17300=1900
Vivek Ravishanker: 17200+5999=23199 (New champ)
Denver Wade: 5600+5600=11200

Correct response:
Spoiler
Albania (Thea – France)

Daily Doubles
Denver: 2600-2600
Vivek: 6200+3000
Vivek: 14000+3200

Coryats
Thea: 19200
Vivek: 13400
Denver: 8200

Combined: 40,800
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Instaget FJ for me. Good bet for the new champ.
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Vivek had chance to bet enough on the last DD to make sure he had the lead entering the FJ! round. By not doing that he cost himself about $15,000.

Thea had the lapse of phrasing yet still led entering the FJ! round to make that gaffe not matter.

Denver did not know the famous Aaron Burr ad and ended up with the better of two possible outcomes getting the $2000 prize.

France? I can see someone guessing countries in the A-B-C range, heck even Denmark. Thea's miss I did not see coming.

On my paper I wrote Albania and later added Belgium just to have a B country in there for consideration since my other A option of Afghanistan was continentally eliminated. It was not something I knew for sure and instead was one of those to stick with the best guess.
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Some odd misses on the "purchase known as something else in Mexico". Louisiana and Alaska?

I got Aaron Burr, though it took me a bit. I said it properly first and then corrected myself as if I had a mouthful of peanut butter.
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MarkBarrett wrote:France? I can see someone guessing countries in the A-B-C range, heck even Denmark. Thea's miss I did not see coming.
Especially given Warsaw Pact.
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Thea foreshadowed her expensive error on Gwyneth Paltrow yesterday with a phrasing error that was not corrected, probably because her answer itself was wrong. She was able to recover from that today and finish in first place over her greatly upsurging challenger. But then it didn't matter because of her massive blowing of FJ.

Have people really forgotten what Warsaw Pact was? Thea was obviously around for that.
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That Got Milk? commercial is one of my all time favorites. It was directed by Michael Bay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLSsswr6z9Y
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Immstmmgmt Fmml Jmm...mmmenmm...

omm smmcmmnd...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLSsswr6z9Y


Right, as I was saying, Instaget FJ. Pretty sure Albania is alphabetically first among European nations overall, without all the qualifiers. Not sure why her "just write something" WAG was ABCDE France...
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floridagator wrote:Have people really forgotten what Warsaw Pact was? Thea was obviously around for that.
Rather harsh and most likely untrue.
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Ugh, Hamilton. You are too stuck in my head. In retrospect, that should've been an easy get for me, but I made the same mistake that the contestant did.

I wasn't 100% on Albania, but it seemed likely enough, I was (almost) certain it wasn't Afghanistan, and I couldn't think of any other countries ahead of it alphabetically. France seemed like such a random guess, though. Too many other countries to consider earlier in the alphabet before I'd have ever hit France.
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econgator wrote:
floridagator wrote:Have people really forgotten what Warsaw Pact was? Thea was obviously around for that.
Rather harsh and most likely untrue.
It only ended in 1991. It's probably true.
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Hi all -

I'll first try to respond to a few things... then I have something else about the game that I have a real question about...

Mark Barrett noted Denver didn't know the famous "got milk" Aaron Burr ad. Well, I had no memory of it either :) Thanks for jpr281 for posting the link so I could see what it was all about. Didn't really like it; guess I just don't often find people getting the "short end" very funny.

floridagator wondered if folks have forgotten what the Warsaw Pact was. Unfortunately, I sadly note that many folks don't have much memory for history. And it's easy to forget if you are years removed from history classes or don't have stuff refreshed somehow. I know I forget some events that happened that I certainly lived through and must have noted at the time, but if I haven't thought about them for a while... poof! I don't know Thea's age but I certainly did find her choosing France very puzzling.

Now ... what I found I really had a question about was: in city nicknames, there was the clue "City of David", correct? If I'm not mistaken, Vivek answered Jerusalem and it was accepted. I thought the "City of David" was Bethlehem. Anyone else note this or have any thoughts?
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econgator wrote:
floridagator wrote:Have people really forgotten what Warsaw Pact was? Thea was obviously around for that.
Rather harsh and most likely untrue.
Given that the Warsaw Pact was around until 1991, I sure hope so.
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econgator wrote:
MarkBarrett wrote:France? I can see someone guessing countries in the A-B-C range, heck even Denmark. Thea's miss I did not see coming.
Especially given Warsaw Pact.
Yeah, well... at least she didn't say Argentina! ;)

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econgator wrote:
floridagator wrote:Have people really forgotten what Warsaw Pact was? Thea was obviously around for that.
Rather harsh and most likely untrue.
Warsaw Pact only ended when Soviet Union imploded in 1989-91. Thea (as opposed to today's millennial contestants) would have heard about Warsaw Pact countries in the news as an adult.
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Really well-played game right up until that Subaru wager from the lead. I'm not sure what was worse: that wager or the response. Sometimes it's better to just leave it blank. On the other hand, excellent wager by the new champ.
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Almost overthought this FJ, remembering a split by Albania from the Soviet Bloc and its close relations with China for a while, which led me to think maybe it was never a member of the Warsaw Pact. However my second choice, Bulgaria, would be after Belgium alphabetically in NATO, so I crossed my fingers and went with Albania.
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41 right.

NASCAR (4), Geo (3), Ads (3), Grimm (1), Top (4), E-I (5)
Reptiles (4), 19th Century (4), Miss (4), Pulitzer (4), Word (1), Kiss (4)

Lach Trash: Worms, Gadsden Purchase; DD: Aaron Burr

First thought was Austria, but then I remembered that Albania was 2nd alphabetically in the world, and that it made more sense with the Warsaw Pact.
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