I agree 100%. All of us have our weak categories, and the show just happened to feature three players who don't follow football (but are all obviously knowledgeable otherwise). Not only that, you could study all the football stats, history, and winners you could possibly fit into your brain, and still not be exposed to "option play" or "purple people eaters".opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:53 am So the contestants don't watch football. Big deal. How much time should they have devoted to preparing for this category? If they didn't know this stuff already, how many months of study would it take to get them up to speed? I would advise any prospective contestant not to bother. You will get far more--and far easier--bang for your buck by swotting up on presidents, state and world capitals, Shakespeare, Academy Awards, Classical music, etc. etc. etc. There's just too much J! material with a relatively constrained pool of facts. Why waste time attempting to drink from a fire hydrant in order to learn a bunch of stuff that isn't even interesting to you?
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If they had devoted some time to study football, they would have gotten Tom Landry, but that’s probably it.
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there were a ton of TOM's for "option" for anyone who's been in the same room as a college football game, I'd have thought. Everything 600-1000, though, yeah you have to be pretty familiar
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My thinking here is I'll keep up on current events (Deadspin) but I'm not going out of my way studying history. I grew up immersed in baseball minutia...no way I have the room for that times four. Course...current events still wouldn't help much with -that- category.Peter the accountant wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:23 amFootball (and baseball and basketball) slot into my idea of pop culture. And that's definitely a topic worthy of study. But it's an extremely broad topic, so you can't study it all.opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:53 am So the contestants don't watch football. Big deal. How much time should they have devoted to preparing for this category?
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Jamie Samuelson of 97.1 The Ticket (Detroit sports radio) played the whole category this morning. He's a big Jeopardy fan, and sometimes has callers compete for prizes in a Jeopardy-style game.
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And here I was about to complain about the lack of TOMs in this category. The rest of the clues seemed to be YKIOYD. The bottom one could've at least referenced a hit novelty song from the '50s for a little help (or a bad '80s movie starring Neil Patrick Harris, but that probably would've only helped me).
I almost have to wonder if the writers intentionally left out any hints so the home audience could feel smarter than the contestants. Like Peter said, not a bad idea considering the press they're getting today. Here in the Cleveland area, this tweet has been a topic of conversation. Personally I think it's hilarious.
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They shot that movie in my old hometown!bbird wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:01 pm
And here I was about to complain about the lack of TOMs in this category. The rest of the clues seemed to be YKIOYD. The bottom one could've at least referenced a hit novelty song from the '50s for a little help (or a bad '80s movie starring Neil Patrick Harris, but that probably would've only helped me).
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i don't like american football for the most part...i plan to sleep through this year's super bowl as i did last year...would do Lifetime movies like I did in 2001, but Lifetime movies are pretty shit these days...with that being said, I would say I am pretty knowledgeable about that sport in terms of trivia
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but he had already been mentioned in the regular rounds...was the answer to one of the black history cluessillymoose wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 11:27 pm I liked my guess of Ralph Ellison for FJ. Probably never would have come up with Kerouac
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i don't watch american football either and i knew the answers to all 5 of those clues...only the purple people eater clue can be seen as needing to know a decent amount about american football..the other 4..eh..not so much...especially tom landry...pretty much like lombardy and rockne...he transcended the sportopusthepenguin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:53 am So the contestants don't watch football. Big deal. How much time should they have devoted to preparing for this category? If they didn't know this stuff already, how many months of study would it take to get them up to speed? I would advise any prospective contestant not to bother. You will get far more--and far easier--bang for your buck by swotting up on presidents, state and world capitals, Shakespeare, Academy Awards, Classical music, etc. etc. etc. There's just too much J! material with a relatively constrained pool of facts. Why waste time attempting to drink from a fire hydrant in order to learn a bunch of stuff that isn't even interesting to you?
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If you don't know football, the $200 question could have been "choice" or "option" or "flip flop" or any of a bunch of other similar terms. The outcomes for the $600 and $800 clues were the same - they're asking for language/terms specific to football that have multiple synonyms. These are tough questions to just "figure out" without specific football knowledge.CasketRomance wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:38 pm i don't watch american football either and i knew the answers to all 5 of those clues...only the purple people eater clue can be seen as needing to know a decent amount about american football..the other 4..eh..not so much...especially tom landry...pretty much like lombardy and rockne...he transcended the sport
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Exactly. I read an entire article once on the "read option," but I still clammed on that option clue.mikebdoss wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:51 pmIf you don't know football, the $200 question could have been "choice" or "option" or "flip flop" or any of a bunch of other similar terms. The outcomes for the $600 and $800 clues were the same - they're asking for language/terms specific to football that have multiple synonyms. These are tough questions to just "figure out" without specific football knowledge.CasketRomance wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:38 pm i don't watch american football either and i knew the answers to all 5 of those clues...only the purple people eater clue can be seen as needing to know a decent amount about american football..the other 4..eh..not so much...especially tom landry...pretty much like lombardy and rockne...he transcended the sport
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Of the set, I thought "fair catch" was the most beginner friendly one. Chicago Bears' fans should know that one well as the event that happens after their 3 and out . But it does happen several times a game, is not really ambiguous, and in most games and is usually identified by the announcer as such. It's as basic as the forward pass or the punt.opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:23 pmExactly. I read an entire article once on the "read option," but I still clammed on that option clue.mikebdoss wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:51 pmIf you don't know football, the $200 question could have been "choice" or "option" or "flip flop" or any of a bunch of other similar terms. The outcomes for the $600 and $800 clues were the same - they're asking for language/terms specific to football that have multiple synonyms. These are tough questions to just "figure out" without specific football knowledge.CasketRomance wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:38 pm i don't watch american football either and i knew the answers to all 5 of those clues...only the purple people eater clue can be seen as needing to know a decent amount about american football..the other 4..eh..not so much...especially tom landry...pretty much like lombardy and rockne...he transcended the sport
I saw the Super Bowl in Cozumel one year (the "wardrobe malfunction" year) and it was interesting to hear the English announcers for the foreign broadcast explaining the game from the most basic level. "The quarterback takes the ball from the center...."
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Those are good examples to explain the trouble we football illiterates were having. We know what a "forward pass" and a "punt" are, more or less, when you use the terms. But we don't always know whether they are technical terms which might be asked for in a clue or non-technical descriptions which would be less likely to come up.twelvefootboy wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:55 pmOf the set, I thought "fair catch" was the most beginner friendly one. Chicago Bears' fans should know that one well as the event that happens after their 3 and out . But it does happen several times a game, is not really ambiguous, and in most games and is usually identified by the announcer as such. It's as basic as the forward pass or the punt.opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:23 pmExactly. I read an entire article once on the "read option," but I still clammed on that option clue.mikebdoss wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:51 pmIf you don't know football, the $200 question could have been "choice" or "option" or "flip flop" or any of a bunch of other similar terms. The outcomes for the $600 and $800 clues were the same - they're asking for language/terms specific to football that have multiple synonyms. These are tough questions to just "figure out" without specific football knowledge.CasketRomance wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:38 pm i don't watch american football either and i knew the answers to all 5 of those clues...only the purple people eater clue can be seen as needing to know a decent amount about american football..the other 4..eh..not so much...especially tom landry...pretty much like lombardy and rockne...he transcended the sport
Speaking only for myself, I recognized all of the correct responses once they were stated. But none of them except the Cowboys occurred to me in time.
I'll also take this moment to say that of COURSE the contestants deserve all the ribbing they're getting. I hope they're taking it in good humor and are enjoying their time as a Transient Internet Phenomenon. I would expect no less if I'd participated in such a debacle. But I also would have no regrets about my decision not to make football a major part of my study regimen. If I get on the show, I'll probably study team names/locations and stadium names. Which wouldn't have helped at all for these clues.
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It did make Highly Questionable with Papi, Dan and Domonique Foxworth all giving the J! clip a "Sí."econgator wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:10 pmThe 9AM SportsCenter showed it all, too.
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+1 (or 2?) to all this. I know enough general sports trivia for Trivial Pursuit, but I've NHO most of those answers.mikebdoss wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 11:28 amI agree 100%. All of us have our weak categories, and the show just happened to feature three players who don't follow football (but are all obviously knowledgeable otherwise). Not only that, you could study all the football stats, history, and winners you could possibly fit into your brain, and still not be exposed to "option play" or "purple people eaters".opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 10:53 am So the contestants don't watch football. Big deal. How much time should they have devoted to preparing for this category? If they didn't know this stuff already, how many months of study would it take to get them up to speed? I would advise any prospective contestant not to bother. You will get far more--and far easier--bang for your buck by swotting up on presidents, state and world capitals, Shakespeare, Academy Awards, Classical music, etc. etc. etc. There's just too much J! material with a relatively constrained pool of facts. Why waste time attempting to drink from a fire hydrant in order to learn a bunch of stuff that isn't even interesting to you?
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bomani jones is no longer on the show?MarkBarrett wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:22 pmIt did make Highly Questionable with Papi, Dan and Domonique Foxworth all giving the J! clip a "Sí."econgator wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:10 pmThe 9AM SportsCenter showed it all, too.
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Bomani left this past summer although he has done a few fill-in days along with a bunch of others including Foxworth as no permanent co-host has been named yet. To me the show works fine with the rotation in the third seat.CasketRomance wrote: ↑Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:05 pmbomani jones is no longer on the show?MarkBarrett wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 5:22 pmIt did make Highly Questionable with Papi, Dan and Domonique Foxworth all giving the J! clip a "Sí."econgator wrote: ↑Fri Feb 02, 2018 1:10 pmThe 9AM SportsCenter showed it all, too.