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Monday, March 5, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:19 pm

Game Recap for Show #7711, 2018-03-05

CONTESTANTS
Jesse Darland, an editor from Charleston, South Carolina
Shari Post, a software engineer from Aurora, Colorado
Matt Lisiecki, an international development researcher from Brooklyn, New York (whose 1-day cash winnings total $14,950)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Thank you, Johnny. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Nothing but good things in our future. Jesse, Shari, and Matt, let's see if I'm right. Good luck. Here we go. The Jeopardy! Round today contains these categories...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
SCIENCE (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
HOME FURNISHINGS (4/5)
ODDS & ENDS (5/5)
DITLOIDS (3/5)
A MAN FOR 2 SEASONS (5/5)
THOMAS LESS (4/4)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Matt: 10 R (including 1 rebound), 1 W
Jesse: 9 R (including 1 DD), 1 W
Shari: 7 R, 1 W

Clues revealed: 29
Triple Stumpers: 3
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $2,200



JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Jesse found the Daily Double on the 12th clue. Matt had $2,800, Shari had $200, and Jesse was at $1,400. Jesse made it a True Daily Double, wagering $1,400.

SCIENCE $1000: If the half-life of trebekium-13 is 10 years, in 20 years your 100-gram sample will be down to this many grams
(Alex: 50 after 10 years, 25 after 20.)

SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Jesse: $3,600
Matt: $3,400
Shari: $600

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: Jesse Darland is from Charleston, South Carolina. Once had a brush-in with the Secret Service.

Jesse: That's right.

Alex: Doesn't sound good.

Jesse: Well, I was working at the Kentucky Derby, checking tickets to make sure the VIPs were in the proper section, and I heard that Vice President Al Gore and his wife were making their way to their seats, so I thought I'd go shake their hands. But I moved a little bit too quickly because someone grabbed my elbows from behind and said, "Just stay right there."

Alex: Ah, and you did.

Jesse: I did.

Alex: Good for you.




Alex: Shari Post is from Aurora, Colorado. We have a lot of new bicycle lanes in the Los Angeles area. You could take advantage of something like that because you and your husband have a bicycle that we don't see that often.

Shari: Yes, tandem bicycle. It comes apart into two pieces, so we can take it on trips. We've gone to lots of cool places. Last trip we did was last summer. We went across Iowa. It's a 400-mile, 7-day bike trip called RAGBRAI.

Alex: Who rides up front?

Shari: My husband does.

Alex: So that means...

Shari: I can just put my feet up and read a book.

[Laughter]

Alex: Yeah, he doesn't know that you're reading.

Shari: Oh no. Don't tell him.

Alex: Okay. Next thing you oughtta do is buy a kayak built for two.




Alex: Matt Lisiecki is our champion. He is from Brooklyn, New York. Once spent a summer living in what sounds like an exotic and perhaps dangerous location.

Matt: Not really dangerous, but yeah, I spent a summer living in the Ecuadorian Amazon. Kind of right where the rainforest bumps up against the mountains. It was the most beautiful place I've ever seen. It was pretty spectacular.

Alex: Good for you.

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
HOME FURNISHINGS $400: Use this appropriately named wire shelving unit to cool off your pies or to display your plants
(Matt: What is a cooling rack?)
(Jesse: What is a rack?)
...
(Alex: You had to be specific after Matt's incorrect response.)

DITLOIDS $1000: The classic ditloid, a Solzhenitsyn novel:
1 D I T L O I D

DITLOIDS $800: The talus is one:
206 B I T H B

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Jesse: $6,000
Matt: $4,400
Shari: $3,400
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Re: Monday, March 5, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by Archivists » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:19 pm

DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES (4/5)
AFRICAN CITIES (3/5, including 1 missed Daily Double)
TRIPLE TALK SONG TITLES (4/5)
TRANSPORTATION (5/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
FACTS ABOUT FICTION (4/5)
YOU GET A "C" (5/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
Matt: 12 R (including 1 DD), 4 W (including 1 DD)
Shari: 7 R (including 1 rebound), 0 W
Jesse: 6 R (including 1 rebound), 1 W

Clues revealed: 30
Triple Stumpers: 4
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $6,400



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Matt snagged the next Daily Double on the 9th clue. Matt had $8,400, Shari had $5,000, and Jesse was at $7,200. Matt wagered $4,000.

AFRICAN CITIES $1600: Seen here are the red walls of this city that gave the country Morocco its name
(Matt: What is Casablanca?)

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Matt who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 30th clue. Matt had $12,000, Shari had $9,800, and Jesse was at $9,600. Matt wagered $3,000.

TRANSPORTATION $2000: In the 1940s this airline advertised, "None faster--none finer--to and through the South"

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
FACTS ABOUT FICTION $1600: William Styron came in for some criticism when he wrote in blackvoice in "The Confessions of" this man

AFRICAN CITIES $2000: Its situation on an island makes Mombasa the ideal place for this country's biggest port city

RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES $1600: The Morning Tulsa Daily World, August 4, 1921:
"Baseball Scorns Freed Black ____"
(Matt: What are slaves?)

TRIPLE TALK SONG TITLES $1200: Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson talked this duet of theirs all the way to No. 1
(Matt: What is "The Girl Is Mine"?)

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Matt: $15,000
Shari: $9,800
Jesse: $9,600

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
OSCAR HISTORY

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Crush for first place.
Matt: Wager $4,601 to cover Shari.
Shari: You have the hope of surpassing Matt if you come up with the correct response. Bet at least $9,401 to force Matt to wager to win while also protecting your position from being usurped by Jesse.
Jesse: Your only hope of a win is that you're the only one to give a correct response, so bet $9,598 or so, leaving a few bucks behind in case someone wagers it all.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In the 1940s he became the first person to receive nominations as actors, director & writer for the same film

FINAL SCORES
Jesse: $9,600 + $9,599 = $19,199 (Who is Orson Welles) (2nd place: $2,000)
Shari: $9,800 - $610 = $9,190 (Who ?) (3rd place: $1,000)
Matt: $15,000 + $4,601 = $19,601 (Who is Orson Welles?) (2-day champion: $34,551)
(Alex: And he was the main force behind one of the greatest films ever made.)
...
(Alex: [To Jesse] You were thinking of the movie Citizen Kane, I hope.)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $8,600

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Matt: $18,000, 22 R (including 1 DD), 5 W (including 1 DD)
Shari: $9,800, 14 R, 1 W
Jesse: $9,200, 15 R (including 1 DD), 2 W
Combined Coryat: $37,000

BATTING AVERAGES
Matt: 23/60 = .383
Jesse: 16/59 = .271
Shari: 14/58 = .241
Team: 53/63 = .841

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
A MAN FOR 2 SEASONS $1000: This '50s & '60s TV "Rifleman" played 2 seasons of pro basketball & 2 seasons of major league baseball
(Shari: Who is Chuck Connor?)

SCIENCE $400: During his work with optics, this British scientist created a wheel with colors corresponding to musical notes

ODDS & ENDS $1000: The X-shaped cross on Scotland's flag is known as the cross of this saint

HOME FURNISHINGS $200: Santa would feel right at home in this style of bed

HOME FURNISHINGS $600: Congratulations on your purchase of one of these expensive floor coverings

HOME FURNISHINGS $1000: Gee, you have one of these in your living room, & it really works

THOMAS LESS $400: In 2007 a District of Columbia law professor called him "Talk-Less Thomas"
(Alex: Less than a minute now.)

DITLOIDS $600: They include a scale & a bull:
12 S O T Z
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

YOU GET A "C" $800: An official in a town who made public announcements
(Jesse: What is a caller?)

TRANSPORTATION $800: Co-founder John Zimmer predicts that within 5 years, most of this ride-sharing co.'s cars will be self-driven
(Matt: What is Uber?)

TRANSPORTATION $1600: Hoping for a bull's-eye in 2012, Chrysler reintroduced a new version of this Dodge auto last seen in the 1970s

CORRECT RESPONSES
25 grams
a baker's rack
One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich
206 bones in the human body
Marrakech
Delta
Nat Turner
Kenya
Sox
"Say, Say, Say"
Orson Welles
Chuck Connors
Newton
St. Andrew
a sleigh bed
a Persian rug
a gramophone
Clarence Thomas
12 signs of the zodiac
a town crier
Lyft
the Dart
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Re: Monday, March 5, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by theFJguy » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:57 pm

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
OSCAR HISTORY

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
In the 1940s he became the first person to receive nominations as actor, director & writer for the same film

Matt Lisiecki: 15000+4601=19601 (2x = $34,551)
Shari Post: 9800-610=9190
Jesse Darland: 9600+9599=19199

Correct response:
Spoiler
Show
Orson Welles (Shari – Who ?)

Daily Doubles
Jesse: 1400+1400
Matt: 8400-4000
Matt: 12000+3000 (30th clue with Shari @ 9800 & Jesse @ 9600)

Coryats
Matt: 18000
Shari: 9800
Jesse: 9200

Combined: 37,000

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Matt: 4400
Shari: 3400
Jesse: 6000

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Re: Monday, March 5, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by MarkBarrett » Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:59 pm

Miss of the day was RIPPED FROM THE HEADLINES $1600: The Morning Tulsa Daily World August 4, 1921: “Baseball Scorns Freed Black ___”

Matt blurted, “Slaves” and quickly realized his error too late.

Nice timing with the Oscar category for the FJ! round. I was done writing before the music started. The Jeopardy! Fan has mention of Chaplin who was nominated for writing and acting in 1940’s Best Picture nominee The Great Dictator, but did not have the directing nomination. I know I still would have gone the right way even it I had played the clue as a 50:50 option.

Matt’s pretty number on DD3 worked out fine for him while a miss would have dropped him to 3rd place for the FJ! round.

Anytime someone plays a DD at clue 30 that opens up the discussion for how to wager it. It did not seem like Matt considered the scoreboard or clue placement in the $2000 slot. He also did not play the once bitten, twice shy route in letting his previous -4000 on DD2 affect him.

I had one precall in TRIPLE TALK SONG TITLES and funny that it was the only one the players did not know.

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Post by doihavetoreally » Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:48 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:59 pm
I had one precall in TRIPLE TALK SONG TITLES and funny that it was the only one the players did not know.
I precalled (Girls x 3) and it is my only precall ever in a song category. I resigned myself to a 1/5 in the category.

Last DD bet was odd - oh well. However, I liked the Champ's intro :)

As for FJ - I was very confident with Olivier and never considered anyone else. Ouch!
Good enough to lose on Jeopardy!

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Post by Bamaman » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:25 pm

Matt rips off his glasses in the intro and the very first clue comtains a reference to Superman.

This time the two week time shift made a category more relevant as we had the Oscars last night. I started with Disney, but got the right guy quickly.

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Re: Monday, March 5, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by badgerfellow » Mon Mar 05, 2018 4:43 pm

doihavetoreally wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 3:48 pm

Last DD bet was odd - oh well. However, I liked the Champ's intro :)
I liked that last wager as it gave Matt the crush going into Final, but it does leave a strategic decision. A miss on a wager to lock game (minimum of $7601) would have (typically) cost him the game, so he can't do that. If he wants to guarantee lead, then only bet $2000 but risk losing opportunity to crush.

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Shocked at Matt’s last DD wager!

Post by JoeW » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:38 pm

Stunned...what was Matt doing betting $3000 on the last clue? Basically, if you can’t get to a runaway, itcreally doesn’t matter if you’re $1 ahead or within $1 of a runaway, you control your own destiny in FJ, you answer correctly and win and probably lose if you get it wrong, but the additional $3000 does absolutely nothing for him if he’s right and completely kills him if he misses. You cannot risk falling behind someonecwhen you are guaranteed to be leading into FJ. He got very lucky after a very dumb move.

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Post by Golf » Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:50 pm

JoeW wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:38 pm
Stunned...what was Matt doing betting $3000 on the last clue? Basically, if you can’t get to a runaway, itcreally doesn’t matter if you’re $1 ahead or within $1 of a runaway, you control your own destiny in FJ, you answer correctly and win and probably lose if you get it wrong, but the additional $3000 does absolutely nothing for him if he’s right and completely kills him if he misses. You cannot risk falling behind someonecwhen you are guaranteed to be leading into FJ. He got very lucky after a very dumb move.
If he answers the DD correctly he forces one of the others to answer FJ right in order to win. Was it worth it? Probably not. Was he aware of both possibilities at the time? Almost certainly not.

And if you are totally comfortable with the category, wager $7601 and put the game away right there and then while still being able to win from third assuming $9600 doesn't know how to lock him out.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:28 pm

Well, that was stupid. WNEM did yet another Time-Life infomercial with absolutely no announcement, and as usual they're ignoring all the complaints on their Facebook and Twitter pages. And WBKB blocked out the first half of the J! round for a live news update.

Fortunately, it was already up on Reddit, so I was able to catch up quickly.

Thomas for $200 flew over my head since I thought the "he" referred to Thomas and had no idea what was being asked. Derp.

NHO "sleigh bed", and the Santa TOM had me wonder if it was a winter bed, north pole bed, reindeer bed, Mrs. Claus bed...

Why didn't just "rack" get a BMS to "bakers' rack"?

Any reason I should know that Transportation for $800 wanted Lyft over Uber? That seemed like a coinflip.

"Say Say Say" was my only miss in Triple Talk. Title rings no bells whatsoever.

FJ! category didn't have me hopeful. I saw no way to even guess at this one.

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Post by Leander » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:39 pm

Pretty obvious FJ in retrospect, but somehow he never occured to me. I went with Chaplin for The Great Dictator.

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Post by heppm01 » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:24 pm

Judges, for word preceding "bliss", connubial instead of conjugal?
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:28 pm
Well, that was stupid. WNEM did yet another Time-Life infomercial with absolutely no announcement, and as usual they're ignoring all the complaints on their Facebook and Twitter pages.
Actually, they announced it at the end of Friday's game and again shortly before today's game. Not that I like it, but at least I can catch it on WDIV at 7:30.

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Post by TenPoundHammer » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:31 pm

heppm01 wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:24 pm
Actually, they announced it at the end of Friday's game and again shortly before today's game. Not that I like it, but at least I can catch it on WDIV at 7:30.
Then neither their schedule nor Charter Cable's was updated to indicate this.
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Re: Monday, March 5, 2018 Game Recap and Discussion [SPOILERS]

Post by skullturf » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:46 pm

I first wrote down "Olivier" for FJ (I thought that he might have been nominated for both acting and directing for "Hamlet") but then it struck me that the 1940s is also the decade of "Citizen Kane" and Orson Welles was a wunderkind who did everything.

Plus I don't think Olivier wrote "Hamlet".

(Although, to complicate things, it's not inconceivable that someone could win an Oscar for adapted screenplay for a Shakespeare play.)

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Post by DBear » Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:58 pm

If I can get an Oscars FJ!, you know it's easy.

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Post by Bamaman » Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:01 pm

Wikipedia says Olivier did write the screenplay for Hamlet, adapted from the original. But he wasn’t nominated for it. He did win for Best Actor and was nominated for Best Director.

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Post by Ironhorse » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:12 pm

skullturf wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:46 pm

Plus I don't think Olivier wrote "Hamlet".
You never know, I can't keep up with the latest wrinkles to the Shakespeare authorship debate ;)
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Post by Johnblue » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:34 pm

skullturf wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:46 pm
I first wrote down "Olivier" for FJ (I thought that he might have been nominated for both acting and directing for "Hamlet") but then it struck me that the 1940s is also the decade of "Citizen Kane" and Orson Welles was a wunderkind who did everything.

Plus I don't think Olivier wrote "Hamlet".

(Although, to complicate things, it's not inconceivable that someone could win an Oscar for adapted screenplay for a Shakespeare play.)


I went through the exact same process in a matter of seconds!


I tried out in Charleston but I didn't recognize the editor with the bow tie. I was rooting for Matt anyway. I tore up the DJ board, especially 3 Times & African Cities.

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Post by Peter the accountant » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:38 pm

R: 24, W: 2, costing 1200
Coryat: 13,800
FJ: :(
DD: 1/3
LT: baker's rack

timings:
J!: 3:36 + 2:55 = 6:31
DJ: 6:35
FJ: 1:30

Once again, not enough answers in the DJ round leaves me with an abysmal coryat. No answers at all in the bottom two rows of DJ.

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Post by Volante » Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:42 pm

MarkBarrett wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:59 pm
Nice timing with the Oscar category for the FJ! round. I was done writing before the music started. The Jeopardy! Fan has mention of Chaplin who was nominated for writing and acting in 1940’s Best Picture nominee The Great Dictator, but did not have the directing nomination. I know I still would have gone the right way even it I had played the clue as a 50:50 option.
Chaplin was my first instinct, except for The Circus, which he ended up receiving the first honorary Oscar for because they -didn't- want to nominate him in acting, writing and directing. Then I remembered the year and cluing in on '1940s' it was a quick hop to Charles Montgomery Burns Foster Kane. Incredibly, I guess, The Great Dictator wasn't even an also-ran in my train of thought.
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Mon Mar 05, 2018 8:46 pm
(Although, to complicate things, it's not inconceivable that someone could win an Oscar for adapted screenplay for a Shakespeare play.)
Kenneth Branagh was nominated for his adapted Hamlet screenplay in the 90s. (The only -direct- Shakespeare nomination I can see. E.g., Ernest Lehman was nominated for West Side Story which was an extra step removed from R&J. I'm not digging through those.)
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Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:28 pm
Any reason I should know that Transportation for $800 wanted Lyft over Uber? That seemed like a coinflip.
My first thought here was "UBER! ...dangit, that wasn't Travis Kalanick in the clue. Obviously it's Lyft." But after research, Uber was also co-founded. Both are involved in self driving car research (heck, Uber and Google Alphabet are/were in a lawsuit over that).

I'm gonna concur on the coinflip/YEKIOYD aspect. Oh well. Happens.

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