Wednesday, October 16, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Peter the accountant wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:12 pm
Has it been 40 years since we in the west changed Peking to Beijing?
I wish the West would change the common pronunciation from "bay-ZHING" to "bay-DJING", which is more accurate.

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Robert K S wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:24 pm
Peter the accountant wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:12 pm
Has it been 40 years since we in the west changed Peking to Beijing?
I wish the West would change the common pronunciation from "bay-ZHING" to "bay-DJING", which is more accurate.
I'll talk to them about it.

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talkingaway wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:27 pm
FJ! seemed easy to me, but it's easy when you know it. It may as well have been saying "Who was the leader of China?", with "red" leading to China or Russia as being the obvious communist choices, and Russia not being right for the timing.
Since Japan has a red sun on its flag, it seems like the emperor of Japan would have been a possible guess, too, but timing is a bit of an issue...

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Robert K S wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:24 pm
Peter the accountant wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:12 pm
Has it been 40 years since we in the west changed Peking to Beijing?
I wish the West would change the common pronunciation from "bay-ZHING" to "bay-DJING", which is more accurate.
For their part, NBC tried to help in 2008. I distinctly remember one Olympic reporter saying that there is no Z sound in Beijing. I do t remember if it was universally used throughout their broadcasts, but I tucked away in my brain. Can’t say whether I’ve actually stuck to it myself, given that I don’t talk about it on a daily basis, and old habits are hard to break.

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Now I'm hungry for Beijing Duck. :D

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57 R (The Green Acres question was my only miss today.)
DD: 3/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
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Yas, 1979 is when Peking became Beijing.
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Peter the accountant wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:00 am
FJ! was an instaget for me. Age likely has something to do with that. Famous people, places, and events are always a bit easier when you lived through them. My main concern was spelling. I decided to stick with simply Mao, as that is his surname/family name, which is typically sufficient (unless you need to BMS). I would have attempted the Tse Tung spelling rather than the more modern Zedong given by Jackie. Another symptom of age, I suppose.

I also have a minor nit to pick with Jackie's wager. She needed to put that last dollar in. Had Ed wagered the exact minimum needed to cover an all-in wager by John, that would leave him with 7999 on a miss. Her wager risked a tie when an outright win was possible.
Yes indeed. That was not the only tie-related issue. If I recall correctly, near the end of Double Jeopardy, John had $18,600 and Ed had $20,600. Ed buzzed in and made his score $22,600, but if John had buzzed in first and answered correctly, he would have tied Ed. Since John missed FJ, the last DJ question (and John's DD wager) ended up not mattering much. But the possibility of having to see one of them lose to a tiebreaker seemed to be a distinct possibility for a moment.

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Coryat: 37,800
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DD: 2/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: Pitch Perfect, Millard Fillmore, east/yeast

FJ! felt like a super-WECIB. Really surprised that wasn't a triple get. Chalk me up as another Netherlands for DD2.

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twelvefootboy wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:31 pm
Once I thought of Mao Tse Tsung, my only worry was spelling.
One thing to keep in mind for the future is that all Chinese surnames are monosyllabic, so don't bother giving any Mao information than you have to.
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floridagator wrote:
Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:45 pm
Yas, 1979 is when Peking became Beijing.
I seem to recall a brief interim period when it was Peiping, but maybe that didn't last long, or maybe that preceded Peking... or maybe it was only in, I dunno, Time or Weekly Reader. There's a pretty good explanation of the transliterations here, though nothing on the years.
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BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:07 am
twelvefootboy wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:31 pm
Once I thought of Mao Tse Tsung, my only worry was spelling.
One thing to keep in mind for the future is that all Chinese surnames are monosyllabic, so don't bother giving any Mao information than you have to.
:lol:

I posted early enough to show my age with the old name, I also was surprised at the "Zedong". On the show I (possibly) would have stuck with "Mao", and possibly considered "Chairman Mao" .

My stupid answer for the cheese clue was Switzerland, pretty much ignoring the "northern Europe" TOM. Probably because I was there last year for the first time and cows are everywhere. They use electric fences and run them in the front lawn of real nice residential areas, just 30 feet from the major roads. It is almost surreal, and almost seems like they are faking it to be charming for tourists.

But, no, writers, I don't think you should use the word "famous" for this clue. If Denmark if "famous" for this, I also am famous for my patented "Schrodinger Euro-step" in the paint at our Monday night basketball game. (It is and isn't an extra step at the same time, and if you look at it and collapse the wave function, your cat dies :)) (citation needed)

I don't know how to fix the clue for $2000, if you specify "Scandanavian", then it's a $200 clue since you have to go to the only country where the cows don't freeze their teats off ;) . Udder Butter is your friend. (this is a real thing, lol..)
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twelvefootboy wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:16 pm
BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 2:07 am
twelvefootboy wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:31 pm
Once I thought of Mao Tse Tsung, my only worry was spelling.
One thing to keep in mind for the future is that all Chinese surnames are monosyllabic, so don't bother giving any Mao information than you have to.
:lol:

I posted early enough to show my age with the old name, I also was surprised at the "Zedong". On the show I (possibly) would have stuck with "Mao", and possibly considered "Chairman Mao" .

My stupid answer for the cheese clue was Switzerland, pretty much ignoring the "northern Europe" TOM. Probably because I was there last year for the first time and cows are everywhere. They use electric fences and run them in the front lawn of real nice residential areas, just 30 feet from the major roads. It is almost surreal, and almost seems like they are faking it to be charming for tourists.

But, no, writers, I don't think you should use the word "famous" for this clue. If Denmark if "famous" for this, I also am famous for my patented "Schrodinger Euro-step" in the paint at our Monday night basketball game. (It is and isn't an extra step at the same time, and if you look at it and collapse the wave function, your cat dies :)) (citation needed)

I don't know how to fix the clue for $2000, if you specify "Scandanavian", then it's a $200 clue since you have to go to the only country where the cows don't freeze their teats off ;) . Udder Butter is your friend. (this is a real thing, lol..)
Getting rid of "Northern" and adding "Havarti" TOM might make it about right for $2000.

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mas3cf wrote:
Fri Oct 18, 2019 12:39 pm
Getting rid of "Northern" and adding "Havarti" TOM might make it about right for $2000.
I might give it a lesser value. Havarti is Pavlovian for Danish. The product introduces itself like it's the James Bond of cheeses. "Havarti. Danish Havarti".

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Random question - did everyone else intuitively understand the "& sometimes y" category rules off the bat, or was it just me who was confused until the first clue was burned? The way it was explained, that "one word contains a 'y', the other does not", made me think that, for example, "Hello, Dolly" could be an appropriate response. A quick example would have gone a long way to clarify the category, as I think the contestants (and I) were stumped on what turned out to be a moderately simple $200 clue - yeast is clearly the "rising" single-celled fungus, and "east" is right in the word.

The "one-word rhymes" category last was similarly a little confusing to me at first - it was used before, but it's certainly not "potent potables", since it was just a couple of times a decade ago.

Normally, I'd wonder if contestants get an edited example of the category rules, but the stand-and-stare on "east and yeast" makes me think not.

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I didn't understand the explanation either until they showed the first clue.

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alietr wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:59 am
I didn't understand the explanation either until they showed the first clue.
+1
This could be poll-worthy (did you understand it, not did you know it or clam). It is an 0 for 6 so far counting the contestants. It was a teachable moment for the writers/producers - invest in an example. It's a cute category, and it wasn't a matter of contestants jumping to the bottom.
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twelvefootboy wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 9:41 am
alietr wrote:
Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:59 am
I didn't understand the explanation either until they showed the first clue.
+1
This could be poll-worthy (did you understand it, not did you know it or clam). It is an 0 for 6 so far counting the contestants. It was a teachable moment for the writers/producers - invest in an example. It's a cute category, and it wasn't a matter of contestants jumping to the bottom.
Now that you mention it...this is a clever way to prevent Forresting/Chuing/Holtzhauering. If a DD is hidden in a wordplay category with a nonstandard, poorly explained rule, you could be shooting yourself in the foot if you bounce right into a DD as the first clue.

One other way to do this, if they want to make a happy medium between the complete chaos of bouncing and creating a new, strict "you must go top-to-bottom" rule would be to have the top row clue "unlock" all the other clues in the category.

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