But I did have the wrong book in mind, even though I had some doubts about it. So I do hope the poll choice is broad enough to cover those of us who thought the book was Grapes of Wrath.opusthepenguin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:16 amI think that's a good way to put it. Or "but didn't know [for sure] which book was being quoted." Or even "even though I knew the quote couldn't be from Grapes of Wrath." The important thing, for me to check the box anyway, is not to stipulate "but I had the wrong book in mind."
Thursday, October 31, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)
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Re: Thursday, October 31, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)
Mentioned earlier, but in the clue "Hydrogen bonds hold together the strands of this molecular structure discovered in 1953", I really expected her to get her money back at the break. Looking it up, it was the structure that was discovered in 1953; DNA was discovered much earlier. I guess if they had said 'what type of structure', that would have made it clearer what they were looking for.
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Re: Thursday, October 31, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)
They did. I wondered the same thing, then looked it up in the archive (one plus having the work done early, I didn't have to rewind the DVR)alietr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:31 am Mentioned earlier, but in the clue "Hydrogen bonds hold together the strands of this molecular structure discovered in 1953", I really expected her to get her money back at the break. Looking it up, it was the structure that was discovered in 1953; DNA was discovered much earlier. I guess if they had said 'what type of structure', that would have made it clearer what they were looking for.
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Maybe my nom de plume played a role here, but when that clue came up I was looking away from the screen and I really thought I heard Alex read, "Hydrogen bombs hold together the strands of this molecular structure . . ." Which naturally threw me, and I stayed clam.alietr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:31 am Mentioned earlier, but in the clue "Hydrogen bonds hold together the strands of this molecular structure discovered in 1953", I really expected her to get her money back at the break. Looking it up, it was the structure that was discovered in 1953; DNA was discovered much earlier. I guess if they had said 'what type of structure', that would have made it clearer what they were looking for.
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I misread the clue initially and thought they were looking for a book title; I immediately responded with East of Eden.
Upon rereading, I realized they wanted the author, not the book title, and it was an easy leap to Steinbeck.
(I read East of Eden many years ago, never read Grapes of Wrath.)
I misread the clue initially and thought they were looking for a book title; I immediately responded with East of Eden.
Upon rereading, I realized they wanted the author, not the book title, and it was an easy leap to Steinbeck.
(I read East of Eden many years ago, never read Grapes of Wrath.)
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Add me to the list of right author, wrong reason. I think this might be a clue that favors those who don't know too much. I have no idea when GoW was written, so the year didn't distract me. The quote sounds like a story about the dust bowl, so off I went with the standard answer for "dust bowl author".
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Cascades should always include Oregon. I can forgive not realizing the range extends into the far north of California, but almost half of the range is in Oregon.TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:28 pm"Blah Blah Blah Cascades" = NOT Washington = OMG MASSIVE MASSIVE NEGBAIT.
I did get that one easily, mainly because I've visited Mt. Lassen a couple of times.
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And 1953 probably saw the first actual H-bomb. The first device in November 1952 was contained in a bunch of buildings. Kind of hard to drop from a plane.hbomb1947 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:25 amMaybe my nom de plume played a role here, but when that clue came up I was looking away from the screen and I really thought I heard Alex read, "Hydrogen bombs hold together the strands of this molecular structure . . ." Which naturally threw me, and I stayed clam.alietr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:31 am Mentioned earlier, but in the clue "Hydrogen bonds hold together the strands of this molecular structure discovered in 1953", I really expected her to get her money back at the break. Looking it up, it was the structure that was discovered in 1953; DNA was discovered much earlier. I guess if they had said 'what type of structure', that would have made it clearer what they were looking for.
I zoned out on the clue and it was over before I had a chance to process it. I'm not a big fan of mentioning the hydrogen bonding for the TOM. I'd prefer a mention of the four amino acids which is what makes this sucker unique in biochemistry.
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Re: Thursday, October 31, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)
Let's see if I got this right. The clue led many of us to The Grapes of Wrath, thus to Steinbeck. It was such an obvious red herring that AT even announced it before the reveal.
So probably the writers KNEW that the clue would be unlikely to lead to the right novel. I don't see that that is a very well-written clue (even if I did guess Steinbeck correctly). Something just seems ookie (not Okie) with this.
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Shasta is actually an hour's drive south of the Oregon border... And I believe the clue said "southern end of the Cascades". Lassen is southeast of Shasta by maybe 50-75 miles (he said without looking at a map).seaborgium wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:41 pmMount Shasta is in the Cascades and it's right near the California/Oregon border.TenPoundHammer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:28 pm "Blah Blah Blah Cascades" = NOT Washington = OMG MASSIVE MASSIVE NEGBAIT.
Anyway... I've lived in CA most of my life, and would consider Lassen to be at the north end of the Sierra rather than in the Cascades. Apparently, geographers disagree.
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Re: Thursday, October 31, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)
Since it hasn't been mentioned thus far in the thread, I must be the only one that had never heard of a "bath bomb".
Of course, I have been a shower-taker for the last 50 years or so...
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Re: Thursday, October 31, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)
I heard (or read) the clue the same way and was mystified by the response. But I got swept up in the ongoing game and never went back to check.hbomb1947 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:25 amMaybe my nom de plume played a role here, but when that clue came up I was looking away from the screen and I really thought I heard Alex read, "Hydrogen bombs hold together the strands of this molecular structure . . ." Which naturally threw me, and I stayed clam.alietr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:31 am Mentioned earlier, but in the clue "Hydrogen bonds hold together the strands of this molecular structure discovered in 1953", I really expected her to get her money back at the break. Looking it up, it was the structure that was discovered in 1953; DNA was discovered much earlier. I guess if they had said 'what type of structure', that would have made it clearer what they were looking for.
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The molecule is DeoxyriboNucleic Acid, but the structure of the molecule is a double helix. In a similar fashion, water (H2O) is a molecule that has the structure of "bent at about 104 degrees".alietr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 01, 2019 9:31 am Mentioned earlier, but in the clue "Hydrogen bonds hold together the strands of this molecular structure discovered in 1953", I really expected her to get her money back at the break. Looking it up, it was the structure that was discovered in 1953; DNA was discovered much earlier. I guess if they had said 'what type of structure', that would have made it clearer what they were looking for.
That said, I agree that the question is awkward. Given a little breathing space and non-J! tempo, it's not too hard, especially since the category is YOU'VE FOUND THE DAILY DOUBLE. Yeah, double isn't in quotes, but there's no double in the clue, so theoretically it should have something to do with double in the response. You could put "DNA" in the clue, but then it's basically asking "what's the structure of DNA" with "double" in the category, which makes it way too easy for a bottom row clue.
Plus, I think that the hydrogen bonding was a bit distracting. I think the historical significance of Watson and Crick is that they discovered not only the molecule, but the structure of the molecule. The structure actually plays a key role - as you may recall from bio, the double helix can unzip with the help of enzymes to make two single helices, and each individual single helix can be paired up to create the original double helix, thus meaning the molecule is capable of being replicated easily...hence, the ability of DNA to be the deliverer of hereditary traits.
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Re: Thursday, October 31, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)
Lassen is well West of the Sierras. It's E of Redding.
ETA: Maybe I should have looked at a map rather than relying on memory
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Similar to the DNA/double helix issue, I responded "trisomy" to THE SYNDROME SYNDROME for $800. "A person born with the most common type of this condition has an extra copy of chromosome 21 in each cell" For my response to be correct, trisomy 21 would have to be the most common trisomy, which can be debated.
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Re: Thursday, October 31, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)
That's the word I latched on to, and it led right to East of Eden since I knew '52 was way too late for The Grapes...
Also (this is not the kind of thing that sticks with me but it does seem to with others), the last time East of Eden was an FJ (9/17/2018), it was referred to as a 1952 novel.
I also don't know what a bath bomb is (though I'm familiar with "bath balm"...!), and I'm not so inclined to find out...