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Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:11 pm
by Caboom
I got the ones polling above .500, except for Arkansas, and missed the ones below, except for soccer and the Louvre.

Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:20 pm
by Woof
opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:19 pm
talkingaway wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:44 am
If you had a computer in your school in the 80s, you at least heard OF all those older languages - FORTRAN, PASCAL, C, C+, BASIC. We played around with BASIC and LOGO - I still think of programs as having line numbers like when using BASIC on my old Apple //c, and I remember drawing with the on-screen LOGO turtle.
There wasn't room in this poll for "I have programmed in Pascal" or I'd be checking that box. I first learned (self-taught) BASIC with line numbers and couldn't imagine how one could get along without them. Then I got an implementation of structured BASIC (i.e. without line numbers) and took to it in seconds. It was immediately obvious that line numbers were a crutch and a distraction and a waste of valuable time. I couldn't imagine going back to them and to the ridiculous RENUM command for when you ran out of space because the next numbered line was only 10 away and you wanted to insert 11 lines. The alternative, of course was to insert a GOTO 5000, type all the lines you want and then type GOTO [whatever line number came after the one with GOTO 5000] and soldier on. What a mess. What a pain. Good riddance.
Right with you there, my flightless friend. From BASIC I went to FORTRAN-IV and then on to Algol (bleh) and thence to Pascal and the idea of "structured programming." (Though one of my favorite polemics from that era is "Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal")

Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:25 pm
by seaborgium
I think Dhruv's response of Strauss to the Smetana clue is a prime example of "under the lights" thinking. You somehow make a quantum leap from "composer who immortalized a river" to Strauss, without realizing the Moldau is not the Danube.

Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:31 pm
by Volante
The penguin fixed the poll and I have fixed my answers. Hockey and Arkansas are now showing correct values :D

Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:15 pm
by Lefty
I was sort of half-spoiled on many of these, so I'm skipping the survey. I will offer that I guessed "synchronized swimming" for the twins' sport.

Asking for "amen" is awfully lame. It's like asking for "gesundheit".

Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:13 pm
by opusthepenguin
Volante wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:31 pm
The penguin fixed the poll and I have fixed my answers. Hockey and Arkansas are now showing correct values :D
Awesome! I didn't even notice initially that you'd mentioned the problem. I was just looking at the results and saw that no check boxes show up next to them. I thought "That's not right" and went in and made the change.

Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:13 pm
by AFRET CMS
Missed the Malaysian flag and all three of the women in sports listed. Knew the Kings of Comedy but couldn't pull it in time, and was left saying "the guy whose mind was beautiful" when I couldn't remember Nash. Said Musee d'Orsay, but it's on the left bank and is a former railway station -- got suckered into thinking "Louvre in an $800 first-round clue? Nope -- has to be something less obvious".

Got the rest for $7600. Don't know how much I would have wagered on the flags DD. Probably not much.

Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:20 pm
by opusthepenguin
Woof wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:20 pm
Right with you there, my flightless friend. From BASIC I went to FORTRAN-IV and then on to Algol (bleh) and thence to Pascal and the idea of "structured programming." (Though one of my favorite polemics from that era is "Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal")
Ha! That was awesome. I'm definitely not a Real Programmer even if the criteria are a lot less stringent than that. I'm just a guy who learned to program a bit back in the pre-Windows days and kind of wonders what would've happened if I'd decided to go somewhere with that skill. There are hundreds of thousands of us. My basic level of understanding can be described as "I get the joke in the name of C++".

Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:25 pm
by Lefty
opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:20 pm
"I get the joke in the name of C++".
Could you explain it for the rest of us? Or would that kill the humor.

Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:50 pm
by opusthepenguin
Lefty wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:25 pm
opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:20 pm
"I get the joke in the name of C++".
Could you explain it for the rest of us? Or would that kill the humor.
C++ is the grade you get when you don't quite rate a B--. Ok, not really. When you put ++ after a variable in C, it increments the variable to the next higher value. A simple example would be for variable N, an integer, currently equal to 10. The command (statement?) N++ would set the new value of N to 11. So C++ just means that this is the next step for C. (As Nigel Tufnel would patiently explain, "It's one better, isn't it?")

Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:16 pm
by Lefty
opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:50 pm
Lefty wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 5:25 pm
opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:20 pm
"I get the joke in the name of C++".
Could you explain it for the rest of us? Or would that kill the humor.
C++ is the grade you get when you don't quite rate a B--. Ok, not really. When you put ++ after a variable in C, it increments the variable to the next higher value. A simple example would be for variable N, an integer, currently equal to 10. The command (statement?) N++ would set the new value of N to 11. So C++ just means that this is the next step for C. (As Nigel Tufnel would patiently explain, "It's one better, isn't it?")
Thank you. I'd have slapped my knee, but i couldn't decide on one to slap.

I remember getting a C-- on a particular math test. I guess the extra "-" was in lieu of gift wrap.

Re: Fourth Podium Poll for 11/11/2019 - Monday TOC (SPOILERS)

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 5:00 pm
by Peter the accountant
I'm kind of surprised there were no Maren Morris fans taking the coin flip and going with "Hallelujah" for the "can I get one" part of the clue.

I'm claiming a get on certiorari, although I probably would have skipped a syllable. I can't say I've ever heard it pronounced. Otherwise, my only LT would be Pascal.

Did a tiny bit of programming in BASIC (with line numbers!) in college. Had to take one class in these new-fangled computers to learn about what they could do.