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Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:32 am
by CasketRomance
mas3cf wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:05 am
davey wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:49 am
talkingaway wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:14 pm


They're definitely clipping responses. For the DPI clue, I could see Julie's mouth moving, saying "What is...", but the audio only caught "inch" clearly. Hey, if it gets 61 clues in a game, I'm all for it.

This is a sincere question: If they're clipping only the audio, and you can see the mouth moving, how does that save time?

I had no problem with the FJ, had trouble remembering "deep fake," but the one I've never heard of is...Scantron. Source of those bubble sheets? News to me...Never though about where they came from... :roll:
When I was in school, a lot of our tests were Scantron, and the teachers used that term routinely. But unless you are roughly in the second half of Gen X, this was probably a pretty tough question.

wouldn't say that..i am from the first part of generation x and i used scantrons throughout most of my schooling

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:33 am
by CasketRomance
Bigdogstalfos wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:19 am
mas3cf wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:05 am
davey wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:49 am
talkingaway wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:14 pm


They're definitely clipping responses. For the DPI clue, I could see Julie's mouth moving, saying "What is...", but the audio only caught "inch" clearly. Hey, if it gets 61 clues in a game, I'm all for it.

This is a sincere question: If they're clipping only the audio, and you can see the mouth moving, how does that save time?

I had no problem with the FJ, had trouble remembering "deep fake," but the one I've never heard of is...Scantron. Source of those bubble sheets? News to me...Never though about where they came from... :roll:
When I was in school, a lot of our tests were Scantron, and the teachers used that term routinely. But unless you are roughly in the second half of Gen X, this was probably a pretty tough question.
I’m squarely a millennial and definitely remember our teachers calling them Scantron sheets when we had to do those achievement tests with ever-changing acronyms that took a week every couple years.
yeah they are still used today

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 11:36 am
by mas3cf
Okay, I stand corrected. I assumed they were new technology when I was a kid, and that they must have been replaced with something else by now. Looks like I had no clue what I was talking about.... :oops:

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:19 pm
by talkingaway
davey wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:49 am
talkingaway wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:14 pm


They're definitely clipping responses. For the DPI clue, I could see Julie's mouth moving, saying "What is...", but the audio only caught "inch" clearly. Hey, if it gets 61 clues in a game, I'm all for it.

This is a sincere question: If they're clipping only the audio, and you can see the mouth moving, how does that save time?

I had no problem with the FJ, had trouble remembering "deep fake," but the one I've never heard of is...Scantron. Source of those bubble sheets? News to me...Never though about where they came from... :roll:
I could barely see the mouth moving - and, more accurately, it was probably just the tail end of the "is" part. But to me, the response was so clipped that I thought, "Wait, shouldn't they say please answer in the form of a question?", but they didn't, so I rewound.

I got "deep fake" because of a Jordan Peele video that he made as the voice of Obama as an example to warn of the possibility of such "deep fakes". It circulated maybe 1-2 years ago.

I'm near the Gen X/Millennial divide, but safely on the Gen X side, and I have DEFINITELY heard of Scantrons and used them all the time. Definitely used brand-name Scantrons in high school (1991-1995), and similar answer sheets well into 2002 or 2003. I definitely know not to fold, staple, spindle, or mutilate my answer sheet.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:59 pm
by davey
talkingaway wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:19 pm
davey wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:49 am
talkingaway wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:14 pm


They're definitely clipping responses. For the DPI clue, I could see Julie's mouth moving, saying "What is...", but the audio only caught "inch" clearly. Hey, if it gets 61 clues in a game, I'm all for it.

This is a sincere question: If they're clipping only the audio, and you can see the mouth moving, how does that save time?

I had no problem with the FJ, had trouble remembering "deep fake," but the one I've never heard of is...Scantron. Source of those bubble sheets? News to me...Never though about where they came from... :roll:
I could barely see the mouth moving - and, more accurately, it was probably just the tail end of the "is" part. But to me, the response was so clipped that I thought, "Wait, shouldn't they say please answer in the form of a question?", but they didn't, so I rewound.

I got "deep fake" because of a Jordan Peele video that he made as the voice of Obama as an example to warn of the possibility of such "deep fakes". It circulated maybe 1-2 years ago.

I'm near the Gen X/Millennial divide, but safely on the Gen X side, and I have DEFINITELY heard of Scantrons and used them all the time. Definitely used brand-name Scantrons in high school (1991-1995), and similar answer sheets well into 2002 or 2003. I definitely know not to fold, staple, spindle, or mutilate my answer sheet.
This is what I find interesting, that this is a brand name. I'm certainly familiar with this kind of answer sheet, we used them in the 1970s, but the idea that it had a provenance, a brand by which one referred to them, is new to me.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:22 pm
by opusthepenguin
mas3cf wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:05 am
When I was in school, a lot of our tests were Scantron, and the teachers used that term routinely. But unless you are roughly in the second half of Gen X, this was probably a pretty tough question.
I'm Alpha Gen X (born 1965) and we had Scantron tests and used that term in a California high school 1981-1983. In Louisiana, though (1979-1981), I never heard the term. I'd taken standardized tests, of course, where you had to bubble in your answer with a number 2 pencil. But if the answer sheets were produced by Scantron, I didn't notice and no one mentioned it. It was certainly a novelty to me when I got to California and teachers passed out Scantron sheets for some class tests and we had our own scanner/scorer in the office.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:25 pm
by opusthepenguin
talkingaway wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:19 pm
I'm near the Gen X/Millennial divide, but safely on the Gen X side
Whew! You dodged a bullet there, my friend! :D

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:26 pm
by opusthepenguin
billiej wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:07 am
True North wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:07 pm

I also went for the Life of Brian negbait, clearly it’s been far too long since I’ve seen Holy Grail :lol:
Yeah, I'm more ashamed of this than I was for missing that head slap of an FJ. :oops:
Fortunately, the penance required for missing this is generally enjoyable.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:28 pm
by talkingaway
davey wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 2:59 pm
talkingaway wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:19 pm
davey wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:49 am
talkingaway wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:14 pm


They're definitely clipping responses. For the DPI clue, I could see Julie's mouth moving, saying "What is...", but the audio only caught "inch" clearly. Hey, if it gets 61 clues in a game, I'm all for it.

This is a sincere question: If they're clipping only the audio, and you can see the mouth moving, how does that save time?

I had no problem with the FJ, had trouble remembering "deep fake," but the one I've never heard of is...Scantron. Source of those bubble sheets? News to me...Never though about where they came from... :roll:
I could barely see the mouth moving - and, more accurately, it was probably just the tail end of the "is" part. But to me, the response was so clipped that I thought, "Wait, shouldn't they say please answer in the form of a question?", but they didn't, so I rewound.

I got "deep fake" because of a Jordan Peele video that he made as the voice of Obama as an example to warn of the possibility of such "deep fakes". It circulated maybe 1-2 years ago.

I'm near the Gen X/Millennial divide, but safely on the Gen X side, and I have DEFINITELY heard of Scantrons and used them all the time. Definitely used brand-name Scantrons in high school (1991-1995), and similar answer sheets well into 2002 or 2003. I definitely know not to fold, staple, spindle, or mutilate my answer sheet.
This is what I find interesting, that this is a brand name. I'm certainly familiar with this kind of answer sheet, we used them in the 1970s, but the idea that it had a provenance, a brand by which one referred to them, is new to me.
I think Scantron got genericized, much like Kleenex, Jacuzzi, or Zamboni. Anything where you bubbled in answers and an optical (I presume?) reader read it was a Scantron form to me.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:59 pm
by alietr
BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:22 am
If you've ever been to the French Quarter, you've probably stumbled past it. It's the big cathedral in Jackson Square. Of course, it helps that I was there just a week or so ago.
IIRC, that's the view you get while slugging down beignets at Cafe du Monde.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:14 pm
by floridagator
clprez wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:30 pm


I'm not a language expert, but I'm pretty sure that the two vowels make it a dipthong, not a two-syllable word.
diphthong
reddpen wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:25 am


Went to Riverside Cathedral instead and was blown away, mainly by the detailed woodwork throughout.
Riverside Church, across the parkway from General Grant National Memorial


Why has nobody commented on Julie's wag on st. Thomas ruining the possibility of a win for her? Before that clue she was at 8400 and after Beth got that wrong she was at 16800. That meant that beth would not have had a runaway. As that incredibly easy FJ turned out, it wouldn't have mattered. But why make a wag on a $2,000 clue? Especially when missing it puts you out of the running?

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:38 pm
by MattKnowles
There was an interesting scenario at the end of regular play. The last clue was a $2000 clue, Julie had $8,400, and Beth had $18,800.

In this scenario I would have said that Julie should ring in no matter what because it looks like if she doesn't even try to guess then she loses. So she should ring in no matter what, even if she has to guess. But in this case Julie missed it and then Beth missed it. If Julie had stayed clam and Beth didn't change her play then Julie would have been in contention for FJ if she had stayed clam. In this case if Julie makes the correct move it costs her the chance to win.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:40 pm
by econgator
floridagator wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:14 pm
Why has nobody commented on Julie's wag on st. Thomas ruining the possibility of a win for her? Before that clue she was at 8400 and after Beth got that wrong she was at 16800.
1) Beth was never going to ring in from a lock position.
2) As mentioned above, of course Julie has to ring in. It's the only way she can break the lock.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:44 pm
by floridagator
econgator wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:40 pm
floridagator wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:14 pm
Why has nobody commented on Julie's wag on st. Thomas ruining the possibility of a win for her? Before that clue she was at 8400 and after Beth got that wrong she was at 16800.
1) Beth was never going to ring in from a lock position.
2) As mentioned above, of course Julie has to ring in. It's the only way she can break the lock.

But beth did ring in after Julie gave her more of a lock.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:46 pm
by econgator
floridagator wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:44 pm
econgator wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:40 pm
floridagator wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:14 pm
Why has nobody commented on Julie's wag on st. Thomas ruining the possibility of a win for her? Before that clue she was at 8400 and after Beth got that wrong she was at 16800.
1) Beth was never going to ring in from a lock position.
2) As mentioned above, of course Julie has to ring in. It's the only way she can break the lock.

But beth did ring in after Julie gave her more of a lock.
Yes, when it cost her nothing to try to pad her score. She would never ring in from the initial lock.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:59 pm
by MattKnowles
The game moves really fast and Beth may not have realized she had a lock. Obviously she could have been fully aware but a lot of players don't seem to track scores well during the quick action of regular play. I would guess that Beth didn't realize she had a lock - I don't think she would have rung in at all if she saw that.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:18 am
by opusthepenguin
alietr wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:59 pm
BigDaddyMatty wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:22 am
If you've ever been to the French Quarter, you've probably stumbled past it. It's the big cathedral in Jackson Square. Of course, it helps that I was there just a week or so ago.
IIRC, that's the view you get while slugging down beignets at Cafe du Monde.
If I ever decide to die happy by sinking into a diabetic coma, that's the way I want to go. Fly into New Orleans, stop by Aunt Sally's to pick up a box of pralines, and then settle in at Cafe du Monde.

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:07 am
by Robert K S
opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:57 pm
So for "The internet that has not been indexed by these is the deep web", do you think they'd have accepted my response of "bots"?
I don't see how they couldn't have accepted the response of "anything".

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:19 pm
by BigDaddyMatty
opusthepenguin wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 3:25 pm
talkingaway wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:19 pm
I'm near the Gen X/Millennial divide, but safely on the Gen X side
Whew! You dodged a bullet there, my friend! :D
Ok Bloomer

Re: Tuesday, November 26, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 2:03 pm
by Volante
opusthepenguin wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:43 pm
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:28 pm
Poll request on Deepfake. I've been all over the Internet and never heard of it.
I'm curious too. I was really surprised to see this one TS. I thought the whole internet was going hysterical over deepfake technology and how we're at or almost at the point where video can be produced that undetectably makes anyone appear to say or do anything. This being the internet, the big thing that's worrying/exciting people is the possibility of cheap celebrity porn. Anyone's head on the body of an actress/actor who works for less than scale.
Someone made a deepfake of Nixon reading the Apollo 11 failure speech:
https://gizmodo.com/deepfake-art-projec ... 1840049001
davey wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:49 am
talkingaway wrote:
Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:14 pm
They're definitely clipping responses. For the DPI clue, I could see Julie's mouth moving, saying "What is...", but the audio only caught "inch" clearly. Hey, if it gets 61 clues in a game, I'm all for it.
This is a sincere question: If they're clipping only the audio, and you can see the mouth moving, how does that save time?

I had no problem with the FJ, had trouble remembering "deep fake," but the one I've never heard of is...Scantron. Source of those bubble sheets? News to me...Never though about where they came from... :roll:
I thought that was just the audio team not switching the active feed from Alex's mic to the contestant's fast enough?