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Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:02 am
by LucarioSnooperVixey
59 R (The Clemson fight song was my only miss today.)
DD: 3/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: Rabindranath Tagore, I'd Do Anything For Love, One Less Day, Wolf, Swim Bladder

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:04 am
by jev15
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:52 pm
The Amtrak conductors have always said Dowagiac as "duh-WAH-jack". Johnny had "DOW-a-jack".

How did Bangladesh "make sense" in Bengal for $200? I bombed that category.

I thought "hold that tiger" was out of line in the Tiger category. Felt like something specialized that way too few people would know.

Ran the Toy category. Bottom box cost me the run in Trios, Parenthetical, and Vowels, and $1,200 cost me in Science.

What was the TOM for "wall" in Modern Activism for $400? I said "ladder" which IMO makes more sense.

Opera Title Names? Yep, no hope for me whatsoever. Correct response is not ringing any bells.

Lach trash: "I'd Do Anything for Love", swim bladder
Three of the first four letters in Bangladesh and Bengal are the same.

The Clemson clue was tough. I'm a huge college football fan and that didn't ring a bell for me at all.

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:07 am
by Woof
oduguy22 wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:21 pm
Yes, Jennifer played really well, and I got to talk with her during lunch and she is really sweet person and extremely well versed in the arts, and she had a brother that's a big opera fan, so it was a tailor made final for her. Just wanted to put out there my game is on Friday so if you guys do have a chance definitely check out!
Retroactive good luck! Jennifer looks like a tough competitor. In this current movie period, we could call it Ferrari vs. Subarus (thanks, AP). No problem with FJ. I wonder if any non-opera buffs were helped by Shaw’s Don Juan in Hell.

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:12 am
by Category 13
TPH wrote:The Amtrak conductors have always said Dowagiac as "duh-WAH-jack". Johnny had "DOW-a-jack".
I grew up 30 miles from there and yes, it's 'Duh-WAH-giac'. Johnny butchered it so bad, I thought it was just some town I never heard of.
We'll see if he gets it right tomorrow and I hope Jennifer doesn't get jynxed for correcting him.
OntarioQuizzer wrote:Jennifer was 17R 3W in the bottom two rows; bottom-row knowledge tends to hold up better than buzzer skills or Daily Doubles.
I'm rooting heavily for Jennifer but the guessing on bottom row clues was the one thing I found fault with about her play. I fear it could get her into trouble against a strong challenger. If that ends up being her achilles heal, I hope it doesn't de-throne her until she has five wins in the bag.

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:31 am
by harrumph
Another Don Juan here.

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:31 am
by econgator
MarkBarrett wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:04 am
When Alex mentioned the correct composer I knew two things
That's one more thing than I knew. I knew I was wrong, as I had no response, but still had no clue who it was. Still 0-for the week.

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:38 am
by seaborgium
I read "contraction" as "conjunction" in the Meat Loaf clue and called it "And I Would Do Anything for Love." Whoops.
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:52 pm
What was the TOM for "wall" in Modern Activism for $400? I said "ladder" which IMO makes more sense.
"Amnesty International wants more communities to accept refugees, asking for a longer table, not a taller this structure"

"Ladder" doesn't make sense. A longer table is a metaphor for accepting refugees: making space for more people. So they want that instead of the opposite: building a higher wall to keep people out. (Plus, no one calls a ladder a "structure.")

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:51 am
by mas3cf
Poll request on the Clemson fight song. I went to an ACC school and have been following ACC sports for 20 years, and the only part of that song I know is "C, L, E, M, S, O........... N!" What's the cultural relevance to anyone who didn't go to Clemson?

And LSV didn't know it either, which says a lot. :D

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:18 am
by seaborgium
mas3cf wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:51 am
Poll request on the Clemson fight song. I went to an ACC school and have been following ACC sports for 20 years, and the only part of that song I know is "C, L, E, M, S, O........... N!" What's the cultural relevance to anyone who didn't go to Clemson?

And LSV didn't know it either, which says a lot. :D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiger_Rag
I clammed on "hold that tiger" because I didn't think a jazz song would be a college fight song, plus they'd already given a lyric that was "____ that tiger" in the clue, and they say "hold that tiger" so many times in the song that I didn't know there were other lyrics.

The song has a repeated bit where a horn player does a little "roar" with their instrument, but the Mills Brothers did it vocally.

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 7:05 am
by CasketRomance
jev15 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:04 am
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:52 pm
The Amtrak conductors have always said Dowagiac as "duh-WAH-jack". Johnny had "DOW-a-jack".

How did Bangladesh "make sense" in Bengal for $200? I bombed that category.

I thought "hold that tiger" was out of line in the Tiger category. Felt like something specialized that way too few people would know.

Ran the Toy category. Bottom box cost me the run in Trios, Parenthetical, and Vowels, and $1,200 cost me in Science.

What was the TOM for "wall" in Modern Activism for $400? I said "ladder" which IMO makes more sense.

Opera Title Names? Yep, no hope for me whatsoever. Correct response is not ringing any bells.

Lach trash: "I'd Do Anything for Love", swim bladder
Three of the first four letters in Bangladesh and Bengal are the same.

The Clemson clue was tough. I'm a huge college football fan and that didn't ring a bell for me at all.

totally agree...i don't get how that is 2nd box material...should have been bottom box

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:20 am
by Foretopman
On "Tiger Talk" for $1000: Am I the only one who heard Jennifer say "the lady AND the tiger" instead of "the lady OR the tiger"? I was really expecting a reversal there.

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:33 am
by talkingaway
Thoughts about box level: I'm not a fan of college sports and don't know jazz in detail, so "Where's that tiger" could have easily been a top row clue that I didn't know, but I'll trust everyone here on the level. I even YouTubed the song, and it's a NHO for me.

But I also wonder if levels sometimes get messed up due to production errors - like, say, accidentally revealing the wrong clue so they have to throw out a clue. I'm sure they have replacement clue available for each topic, since that's what the whole "sixth clue" thing on the J! website is all about, but if you accidentally reveal a top row clue and have to replace it with whatever extra clue is available, it's probably going to be harder than a typical top row.

And it was very nice of them to remind the players about the contraction in the Meatloaf song. I got it, but since the lyrics only (or mostly?) contain the non-contracted "I would do", I probably would have gotten it wrong. I might have even stuck an "and" at the beginning, too.

(P.S.: He literally lists out about 4 or 5 different things he wouldn't do. So don't ask what "I won't do that" refers to!)

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:53 am
by TenPoundHammer
seaborgium wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:38 am
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:52 pm
What was the TOM for "wall" in Modern Activism for $400? I said "ladder" which IMO makes more sense.
"Amnesty International wants more communities to accept refugees, asking for a longer table, not a taller this structure"

"Ladder" doesn't make sense. A longer table is a metaphor for accepting refugees: making space for more people. So they want that instead of the opposite: building a higher wall to keep people out. (Plus, no one calls a ladder a "structure.")
Still, tables and walls have nothing to do with each other. Then again, neither do ladders. It just seems like an utterly contrived metaphor.

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:54 am
by heppm01
Right composer, wrong opera (The Marriage of Figaro). I never made the Don Giovanni <-> Don Juan connection before but will not make this mistake again.

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:12 am
by Volante
Foretopman wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:20 am
On "Tiger Talk" for $1000: Am I the only one who heard Jennifer say "the lady AND the tiger" instead of "the lady OR the tiger"? I was really expecting a reversal there.
Clue didn't ask for the title, just the two components of said title, so either conjunction works:
An 1882 short story by Frank Stockton about a choice between these 2 things has come to mean an impossible decision

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:19 am
by Foretopman
Volante wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:12 am
Foretopman wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:20 am
On "Tiger Talk" for $1000: Am I the only one who heard Jennifer say "the lady AND the tiger" instead of "the lady OR the tiger"? I was really expecting a reversal there.
Clue didn't ask for the title, just the two components of said title, so either conjunction works:
An 1882 short story by Frank Stockton about a choice between these 2 things has come to mean an impossible decision
Huh, so it did. Thanks for the correction. :oops:

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:47 pm
by opusthepenguin
Foretopman wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:19 am
Volante wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 10:12 am
Foretopman wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:20 am
On "Tiger Talk" for $1000: Am I the only one who heard Jennifer say "the lady AND the tiger" instead of "the lady OR the tiger"? I was really expecting a reversal there.
Clue didn't ask for the title, just the two components of said title, so either conjunction works:
An 1882 short story by Frank Stockton about a choice between these 2 things has come to mean an impossible decision
Huh, so it did. Thanks for the correction. :oops:
I had the same question when her response was accepted. So it was definitely a waitaminnit moment for more than just you. But when I went back to the clue, I came to the same conclusion as Volante. As grating as it might sound, she could even have gotten away with "What are the tiger and the lady?"

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:50 pm
by clprez
Category 13 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:12 am
TPH wrote:The Amtrak conductors have always said Dowagiac as "duh-WAH-jack". Johnny had "DOW-a-jack".
I grew up 30 miles from there and yes, it's 'Duh-WAH-giac'. Johnny butchered it so bad, I thought it was just some town I never heard of.
We'll see if he gets it right tomorrow and I hope Jennifer doesn't get jynxed for correcting him.
I had no clue as to what Johnny said, so I went to the contestant page on the online site to see what it was. If I remember correctly, Alex said it incorrectly during the contestant interview too.

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:48 pm
by Foretopman
Category 13 wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:12 am
TPH wrote:The Amtrak conductors have always said Dowagiac as "duh-WAH-jack". Johnny had "DOW-a-jack".
I grew up 30 miles from there and yes, it's 'Duh-WAH-giac'. Johnny butchered it so bad, I thought it was just some town I never heard of.
My wife's cousin lived in or near Dowagiac for many years. When my wife heard Johnny's pronunciation she had a definite WTF? reaction.
Coincidentally, just last weekend I rewatched "North By Northwest". In the scene in the Chicago train station (LaSalle Street station?) in the background you can hear an announcement for an eastbound train that will go through Dowagiac. That announcer pronounces it the right way.

Re: Wednesday, December 4, 2019 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:00 pm
by seaborgium
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 9:53 am
seaborgium wrote:
Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:38 am
TenPoundHammer wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 8:52 pm
What was the TOM for "wall" in Modern Activism for $400? I said "ladder" which IMO makes more sense.
"Amnesty International wants more communities to accept refugees, asking for a longer table, not a taller this structure"

"Ladder" doesn't make sense. A longer table is a metaphor for accepting refugees: making space for more people. So they want that instead of the opposite: building a higher wall to keep people out. (Plus, no one calls a ladder a "structure.")
Still, tables and walls have nothing to do with each other. Then again, neither do ladders. It just seems like an utterly contrived metaphor.
To be fair, only the table in that saying is purely metaphorical, and they gave that in the clue.