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GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:47 am
by Archivists
Game 1 J! Round

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:47 am
by Archivists
Game 1 DJ! Round

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:48 am
by Archivists
Game 2 J! Round

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 8:48 am
by Archivists
Game 2 DJ! Round

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:56 am
by theFJguy
Game 1:

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
INFLUENTIAL WRITING

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Its second line is "All the powers of old Europe have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: pope & czar, Metternich & Guizot"

James Holzhauer 32400+11914=44314
Ken Jennings 22000+18000=40000
Brad Rutter 7200+7200=14400

Correct response:
Spoiler
"The Communist Manifesto"

Daily Doubles
James 800+1000
James 13600+13600
Ken 8400+8400

Coryats
James 20,400
Ken 15,600
Brad 7,200

Combined: 43,200

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
James 9600
Ken 3200
Brad 1200

Game 2:

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
19th CENTURY LEADERS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
Tall, lanky Joel Barlow was an ambassador carrying messages between these 2 world leaders, both mocked for being short

James Holzhauer 22800+15300=38100 (+44314) =82414 (Winner)
Ken Jennings 21200-3800=17400 (+40000) =57400
Brad -3600 (=14400)

Correct response:
Spoiler
Napoleon and (James) Madison (Ken - Napoleon & Monroe)

Daily Doubles
Brad 1000+1000
Brad 3800-3800
James 8400+8400

Coryats
James 16,000
Ken 21,200
Brad 200

Combined: 37,400

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
James 6400
Ken 6800
Brad 3800

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:52 pm
by seaborgium

Code: Select all

James: 44314 22800 67114 89914
Ken:   40000 21200 61200 82400
Brad:  14400 -3600 14400 14400
James: Bet 15,287 to cover Ken.
Ken: You can win if James misses. Bet less than 9,373.
Brad: (cannot wager)

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:02 pm
by MinnesotaMyron
Brutal game #4 for me, with tons of stuff I should have known. I'll echo someone else about the material being hard without being obscure.

My FJs are YNYN so far.

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:06 pm
by True North
90 straight minutes of Jeopardy! is incredibly taxing. That second game was a complete blur.

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:07 pm
by mas3cf
Finally got a FJ in the fourth game after missing two that I should have gotten.

Biggest surprise to me so far is Brad's performance. Whiffing on DDs is killing him. No way this continues for long.

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:12 pm
by Austin Powers
Rock. Hard.

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:14 pm
by MarkBarrett
5:00 is better than 8:00 and I watched early using locast.org The one ad interruption for the "freemium" site came during a GOAT commercial break. I reset everything and made it through the hour missing nothing of the games.

There was the typical FJ! clue choke by Ken in game 2. Try thinking a second about when the U.S. guy was president and what the other guy was doing at the time. No matter as James took care of business tonight to get a check mark.

Not that I'm one to talk about Ken and FJ! clues since I blew FJ3. I instantly wrote the right thing and with so much time to get myself in trouble I switched to DK. Grrrr!

Brad cannot get it going. A 200 Coryat. That's two zeroes. Having to stand there while the other guys play the FJ! round? Embarrassing though better on night two than later.

12 DDs:

James: 3/3
Ken: 3/3
Brad: 2/6

Brad can't let his opponents find them as a strategy and yet his skill at uncovering them is hurting more than helping.

Finally I found something I could run with THEY'RE BACK plus I got another fiver with the hint of THE ___ OF ___

If Brad can somehow manage to win a game tomorrow then crank up the hype over the Friday - Monday days of no GOAT play.

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:41 pm
by gnash
Watching these matches is pure joy. Hard to think of a competitive activity in which 3 legitimate GOATs could compete against each other while all, more or less, in their prime. It's like a chess tournament involving the late 1920s Alekhine, 1959-60 Tal, 1969-72 Fisher and the 1990s Kasparov.

Again assuming that each game is a complete toss-up, the chances are now 34/81 for James and Ken, and 13/81 for Brad. However, I would give James somewhat better chances than Ken based on his superior record in FJ, and I am beginning to wonder if Brad was slightly under the weather during the taping.

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:42 pm
by bengland
Happy I got a triple stumper. Unfortunately, I can't recall what it was...

Leibniz was awfully easy for 2000 in this setting, I thought.

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:46 pm
by Robert K S
Agree about Leibniz.

I shouldn't have, but I loved, loved the electroencephalogram/electroencephalograph trap.

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:09 pm
by talkingaway
Leibnitz was my first bottom row get of the GOAT tourney, so, yes, it's way too easy for bottom row in a ToC. I almost had "Good day, sir", but had "Good bye, sir."

I came THIS close to my first category run, in DNA - damn you, Glenn Close! If they had to abridge the game because of her speech, I would have sent her a boiled rabbit via FedEx. I sort of tuned out, but I just couldn't pull "genome" from the clue.

Also, I didn't like the intro to the DD in the category - the idea that ethnicity can be uncovered with COMPLETE accuracy via DNA testing is fallacious, particularly for certain smaller ethnic groups. Even different companies give different estimates for the same person, depending on their "reference DNA" for what a "British" or "French" ancestor is. And there's NO similar genetic info regarding ethnicity on X or Y chromosomes? I find that a little hard to believe. But that said, the clue itself had nothing to do with ethnicity, but rather "How many sets of autosomes do most humans have?", which - if you remember 23-and-me and that XY are sex-chromosomes and NOT autosomes - is 22.

If you have trouble remembering your high school nucleotides, but you like 90s pop culture: remember the movie GATTACA for double-stranded DNA. Swap out T for U, and put an oxygen back in the ribose chain, for single-stranded RNA.

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:23 pm
by twelvefootboy
Until I checked the math, I was thinking that Ken could have had a pathway if he had shot the moon (to 44,000) in the first game. That would have been sweet karma to James for his cute bet. He was the better player today.

off topic - The last time I used OTA antenna I got 4 channels. Today I got 30, from about 5 sources. So the DISH contract kerfuffle may cost them sooner than they think :evil:

on topic - I liked the think music. This boomer likes change.

eta - delete error report

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:24 pm
by bengland
talkingaway wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:09 pm
Leibnitz was my first bottom row get of the GOAT tourney, so, yes, it's way too easy for bottom row in a ToC. I almost had "Good day, sir", but had "Good bye, sir."
Thanks! That's the TS I got. I'm amazed it went unanswered. Maybe they all hesitated because of good day/goodbye

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:25 pm
by Category 13
bengland wrote: (1)Happy I got a triple stumper. Unfortunately, I can't recall what it was...

(2)Leibniz was awfully easy for 2000 in this setting, I thought.
(1) My one triple stumper get was "What is Tulsa" And I didn't need the two misses to narrow it down. :ugeek:

(2) There was another bottom row answer I thought was too soft for this tournament: 'Reign of Terror'

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:40 pm
by QuizGeek75
Only word I have is this: Yikes! Brad just can't catch a break for the past two nights. I really would love to see him win his first match tomorrow instead of waiting for the fourth night of the tournament, but it was nice to see him be in the spotlight and it was enjoyable as Ken's.

Re: GOAT Tournament Day 2 (1/8/20) Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 10:42 pm
by TenPoundHammer
Missed the game because I was at work.