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FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
POETS

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
A Dartmouth dropout, he received 2 honorary degrees from Dartmouth--in 1933 & 1955

Heather Nelson: 13400-2199=11201
Sarah Frontiera: 20000+6801=26801 (New Champ)
Cheyenne Simmons: 11200-7500=3700

Correct response:
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Robert Frost (Heather – Thoreau) (Cheyenne – Whitman)

Daily Doubles
Heather: 5000+2000
Heather: 10600+2000
Sarah: 16000+4000

Coryats
Heather: 11000
Sarah: 17600
Cheyenne: 11200

Combined: 39,800

Scores at the end of the Jeopardy! Round
Heather: 6200
Sarah: 3600
Cheyenne: 1200
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Alex took time with his opening to remind viewers about the online tests this week.

Heather won the J! round and Sarah won the DJ! and FJ! round to earn the champ's spot for tomorrow.

DD3 was clue 30 with Sarah leading 16000 to 13400 to 11200.

What to bet? Sarah went with $4000 and got it right while a miss would have dropped her into 2nd place. With a sole solve on the FJ! clue Sarah was okay either way on this particular day.

Alex said there were choices for the FJ! clue while a search of "new hampshire poet" in the Archive turned up these results:

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#3827, aired 2001-04-03 WHERE'S THE BODY? AUTHOR'S EDITION $600: Though he won a Pulitzer for "New Hampshire", you'll find this poet's remains in a cemetery in Vermont
#3252, aired 1998-10-27 CROW-TATIONS $800: In the book "New Hampshire" this poet wrote of a crow that "shook down on me the dust of snow"
#3224, aired 1998-09-17 OLD FARMERS $400: In 1912 he sold his Derry farm (Derry, New Hampshire) & moved to England to write poetry
#3033, aired 1997-11-05 AMERICAN LIT $600: "North of Boston" & "New Hampshire" are books of poetry by this man
#2126, aired 1993-11-29 POETS & POETRY $400: "New Hampshire", a poem with notes & grace notes, earned this poet the first of his four Pulitzers
My Pavloving of the key facts led me to match Sarah for the correct response with no detours unlike Heather and Cheyenne who picked two long deceased prior to 1935.

The end game was interesting with a category remaining and DD3 still on the board. The players did 4-8-12 and then Sarah jumped to 2000. Still no DD meaning it was in the 1600 box. I found it exciting as the 2000 clue was read since there were kinds of scenarios in play with close scores.

It was Sarah's day as she got the $2000 and control for the last DD that went her way.
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I read the FJ as "name a male New England poet from the first half of the 20th century" and that worked out for me.
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mas3cf wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 3:08 pm I read the FJ as "name a male New England poet from the first half of the 20th century" and that worked out for me.
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I'm cranky about DD2. They just said "copper sulfate." As someone who works with copper(II) sulfate in the lab all the time, I know it is very, very blue... so, naturally I said blue. They should have called it either "copper(I) sulfate" or "cuprous sulfate". I guess there is no such thing as Scheele blue, so if I had ever heard of Scheele green, I could have parsed it out, but man!
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It is a shame that some contestants are not aware of the time periods that certain historical figures were alive in. The two incorrect FJ guesses were long dead.

Side question: As poetry is a weak category (I got this FJ), are there any other male American poets alive after 1950 that J! would normally ask about?
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goongas wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:33 pm ...

Side question: As poetry is a weak category (I got this FJ), are there any other male American poets alive after 1950 that J! would normally ask about?
Depending on your familiarity with them I would suggest running Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and Rod McKuen through the Archive for starters.
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Coryat: $39,000 (49R, 0W)
DD: 2/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: Everglades, Sarah Polley, A Good Man, China, JPMorgan Chase, Hawaii, carbon

That was quite an exciting DJ round.

The one DD I missed was nori, never having come close to eating even a bite of sushi. No clue what Sarah’s bet was supposed to do, she risked falling into second for no real benefit.

American poet + 1930s = pretty obvious FJ.

My wife’s away on vacation, she’ll be disappointed when I tell her she missed picking up a $1000 TS (Sarah Polley) :D
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Depending on your familiarity with them I would suggest running Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and Rod McKuen through the Archive for starters.
I know the pavlovs for the first two, never heard of Rod McKuen. Is there anyone more recent? Poetry seems to have almost died as a literary form in terms of popular acceptance.
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I guessed Frost on FJ!, but was nervous about it. It was more of a WECIB for me - I too had "New England, 30s, 50s = Frost", but didn't hone in on the two specific events in the years. In fact, I fast forwarded too quickly and didn't even see the category until the music played - I started thinking FDR (perhaps a posthumous doctorate? is that a thing?), but when I saw POETS in the background, I snapped back.

The country that has the largest bank in the world - and they spot you the letter "C"? I need to see how stressful being on this show is for myself. Shouldn't be a triple stumper. In fact, I read somewhere that the most common J! response is "China".

I got Pieces of 8 plus 1873 in literature, but only because I'm laid up sick at home and watched the Buzzy collection today (it's leaving Netflix soon!). It was his very last FJ! question of his 10-game run - basically the same Pavlov of "1873, pirates = Treasure Island". I seem to do well on final FJ!s of superchamps - I got James' correct, too.

I have a feeling I'd Jeopardy James a Clue 60 DD - make a wager to make it a runaway. I feel much better about DDs than I do about FJ!s.
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goongas wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:51 pm
Depending on your familiarity with them I would suggest running Allen Ginsberg, Jack Kerouac and Rod McKuen through the Archive for starters.
I know the pavlovs for the first two, never heard of Rod McKuen. Is there anyone more recent? Poetry seems to have almost died as a literary form in terms of popular acceptance.
Lawrence Ferlinghetti:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Ferlinghetti

#8071, aired 2019-10-14 AMERICAN POETS LAUREATE $4,000 (Daily Double): In 1998 Lawrence Ferlinghetti was made this city's first poet laureate
#7923, aired 2019-02-06 INDEPENDENT BOOKSTORES $1200: Co-founded in S.F. by Lawrence Ferlinghetti, this bookstore says it was the first to sell only paperbacks
#7811, aired 2018-07-23 BEFORE & AFTER PEOPLE $2000: Star of the "Hunger Games" films who wrote Beat poetry & founded City Lights Bookstore in San Francisco
#7735, aired 2018-04-06 SAN CITY, CALIFORNIA $600: In 1953 Beat poet Lawrence Ferlinghetti founded City Lights bookstore in this city
#5466, aired 2008-05-19 AMERICAN POETRY $200: "Howl", his first book of poetry, was published by City Lights, a bookstore owned by poet Lawrence Ferlinghetti
#5292, aired 2007-09-18 HELLO, LARRY $1000: In 1953 Lawrence Ferlinghetti got the beat & founded City Lights bookstore in this city
#4087, aired 2002-05-14 WORLD LITERATURE $2000: (Jimmy of the Clue Crew reports from San Francisco, CA.) If you really need a book by this poet, come here to City Lights Books, the store he founded in 1953
#3938, aired 2001-10-17 LAWRENCE $1000: This beat poet penned "A Coney Island of the Mind"
#3731, aired 2000-11-20 POETS & POETRY $200: "Howl", his first book of poetry, was published by City Lights, a bookstore owned by poet Lawrence Ferlinghetti
Final Jeopardy! Round clues (1 result returned)
#4612, aired 2004-09-28 POETS: A San Francisco resident since the 1950s, in 1998 he became the city's first Poet Laureate

LSV has some poets in his portion of the Pavlovs: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=343&p=315768#p315768

For the FJ! round the possible names are narrow while for the J! & DJ! rounds it more wide open.

If you are concerned about modern names and trying to key on that area then study area here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulitzer_Prize_for_Poetry

Good luck figuring out who fits the J! canon. I have no idea.

For more traditional J! names then use the Archive for categories such as AMERICAN POETS. A lot will be 1800s with some 20th c. in there as well.

For names you may want to know something about for American males in the 20th century:
Ezra Pound (expatriate)
E.E. Cummings
W.H. Auden (English-American)
Langston Hughes
Carl Sandburg
Charles Bukowski (German-American)
Vachel Lindsay
Mark van Doren (dad of infamous Charles)
and don't forget Joyce Kilmer of the planet Earth. https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/29eadac2-4 ... 7ac4577685
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Agree with above, WECIB but China, especially after the Canada neg.
FJ for me was a 50/50 between Frost & Eliot. Guessed right. :mrgreen:
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Coryat $31,600 (41R, 3W)
DD 1/3 :cry:
FJ :mrgreen:

For DD2, I should have set aside my 20+ years of chemistry experience and went with copper -> green.

NHO nori. I guessed kelp because that's a 4-letter seaweed.

I've been studying contemporary music (because I don't actually listen to it) and it paid off, 4/5 in HIT MUSIC OF TODAY whereas I would have gone 0/5 just a couple months ago.

Sarah seems pretty strong. She got 4 of the $2000 clues, including wimple and Pont Neuf, plus nori, which were all NHOs for me.
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Was pulling for Cheyenne, a fellow Albanian.

I think on the DD to close the board, if you are willing to bet enough to give up the lead, you should bet enough to put the game out of reach. But it worked out.
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Have been to the Byodo Temple, highly recommended. Sad that King of the Franks was a TS.

Sarah's DD3 wager has been mentioned, Heather's FJ wager has not. It's obvious was she was trying to accomplish, but in doing so greatly reduced her winning chances. Wagering $0-$199 was the play for that strategy.
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Finally for the first time in forever, managed to go 12/12 in the top boxes!

22/29 and 21/30 for a $31,000 Coryat. I hope I do that well whenever I get the call...

Ran Phrase History, Hit Music of Today, and Dangerous Colors, also all but $600 in Novels and all but $2,000 in Wrap It Up.

I had Boeing but not Airbus (NHOI) on the DD.

I've actually been to the Byodo-In Temple and recognized it entirely from the picture.

No guess on FJ! This just seemed like a garbage clue given all the random guesses.

Lach Trash: Everglades, "a good man", China, Hawaii, Carbon
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DBear wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:57 pm Agree with above, WECIB but China, especially after the Canada neg.
FJ for me was a 50/50 between Frost & Eliot. Guessed right. :mrgreen:
Eliot was born in St. Louis but moved to England at age 25. He's commemorated on a floor stone in Poet's Corner at Westminster Abbey.
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goongas wrote: Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:33 pm Side question: As poetry is a weak category (I got this FJ), are there any other male American poets alive after 1950 that J! would normally ask about?
E. E. Cummings?
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