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teapot37 wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:22 am Plus, Pat's is one of the most famous cheesesteak restaurants in Philadelphia. (The Pat's vs Geno's rivalry is a big thing.)
At the risk of going TPH on you, that's pretty meaningless if you've been to Philly all of once and never really left the hotel.

But ... oh, ok, thanks. :)
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econgator wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:26 am
teapot37 wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:22 am Plus, Pat's is one of the most famous cheesesteak restaurants in Philadelphia. (The Pat's vs Geno's rivalry is a big thing.)
At the risk of going TPH on you, that's pretty meaningless if you've been to Philly all of once and never really left the hotel.

But ... oh, ok, thanks. :)
You could also be like me and watch The Goldbergs which helps me learn about some Philly area (show is set in Jenkintown) things including an episode all about the cheesesteak debate.
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econgator wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:22 am
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Volante wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:18 am
econgator wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:11 am How did 80+% get cheesesteak?
Northeast regional invented sandwich in close proximity to New Jersey.
Cheesesteak was either going to be right or the MCWA.
The question is:
"An Italian-American named Pat Olivieri, who operated a hot dog stand in the 1930s in his hometown at the intersection of Wharton St., South 9th St., and Passyunk Ave., is credited, with his brother Harry, with creating what sandwich?"
Where are you getting "northeast" (fine, that I can give you from Italian-American) and "in close proximity to New Jersey" from?
So...somehow I read the location of my opponent (New Jersey) into the clue...

But even without that, 'Italian-American', '30s', 'hot dog stand' and 'Passyunk' have a northeast vibe...which might be why I so easily assumed New Jersey (again, my opponent's location...) as part of the clue even though there's no logical place to put it.

And even without -that-... name a sandwich invented in the US. I stick by my assessment that cheesesteak was either going to be right or the MCWA.
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I have never been to Philadelphia but I have watched enough travel channel-type shows to recognize the name Pat's. I knew that Pat's and Geno's are 2 cheesesteak shops that are located right across the street from each other in Philadelphia. I really want to try at least one of them someday!

But I wasn't expecting that set to play so easy. I got three questions correct, but my opponent drank a beer.
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Volante wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 12:50 pm So...somehow I read the location of my opponent (New Jersey) into the clue...

But even without that, 'Italian-American', '30s', 'hot dog stand' and 'Passyunk' have a northeast vibe...which might be why I so easily assumed New Jersey (again, my opponent's location...) as part of the clue even though there's no logical place to put it.

And even without -that-... name a sandwich invented in the US. I stick by my assessment that cheesesteak was either going to be right or the MCWA.
My answer was a hoagie, which fits the Italian-American part (and even the Philly part) and sub bread looks like a giant hot dog, so I figured maybe that's how they started out.
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econgator wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:22 am
Volante wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:18 am
econgator wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:11 am How did 80+% get cheesesteak?
Northeast regional invented sandwich in close proximity to New Jersey.
Cheesesteak was either going to be right or the MCWA.
The question is:
"An Italian-American named Pat Olivieri, who operated a hot dog stand in the 1930s in his hometown at the intersection of Wharton St., South 9th St., and Passyunk Ave., is credited, with his brother Harry, with creating what sandwich?"

Where are you getting "northeast" (fine, that I can give you from Italian-American) and "in close proximity to New Jersey" from?
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econgator wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:07 am
triviawayne wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:15 am
econgator wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:11 am How did 80+% get cheesesteak?
Big concentration of the league population is in the northeast?
Not that high. And it's not like the streets named were the ones you think of when you think of Philly.
I've been to Philadelphia twice and, obligatorily, to Pat's once. Might add South St to Passyunk for the other street that makes me think of Philly. (South St from the 1960s song and Passyunk as an odd name etched into memory.) Once I read "Pat", "hot dog" and "Passyunk", I knew the answer without going further. (Kinda surprised that cheesesteak was accepted without the Philly modifier, but OK.) I had a roommate in graduate school (in L.A.) from the Philly area who was always talking about Philly cheesesteak with cheese whiz; he was so excited when a so-called cheesesteak place opened up in town. Not sure that it lasted all that long.
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Pat and Wharton were definitely the things that stood out for me in that clue (have been to Philly once, but didn't eat a cheesesteak).
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econgator wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:22 am
Volante wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:18 am
econgator wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:11 am How did 80+% get cheesesteak?
Northeast regional invented sandwich in close proximity to New Jersey.
Cheesesteak was either going to be right or the MCWA.
The question is:
"An Italian-American named Pat Olivieri, who operated a hot dog stand in the 1930s in his hometown at the intersection of Wharton St., South 9th St., and Passyunk Ave., is credited, with his brother Harry, with creating what sandwich?"

Where are you getting "northeast" (fine, that I can give you from Italian-American) and "in close proximity to New Jersey" from?
The Wharton School of Business is at Penn, which might be a small clue.
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econgator wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:22 am
Volante wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:18 am
econgator wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 10:11 am How did 80+% get cheesesteak?
Northeast regional invented sandwich in close proximity to New Jersey.
Cheesesteak was either going to be right or the MCWA.
The question is:
"An Italian-American named Pat Olivieri, who operated a hot dog stand in the 1930s in his hometown at the intersection of Wharton St., South 9th St., and Passyunk Ave., is credited, with his brother Harry, with creating what sandwich?"

Where are you getting "northeast" (fine, that I can give you from Italian-American) and "in close proximity to New Jersey" from?
I missed the Wharton tip, but I thought I'd heard of Passyunk in the NE corridor, probably Jersey, but close enough. The emphasis on naming 3 streets made me think it had to be a place name and a sandwich. Reuben, Hoagie, Hero, Poor Boy don't make the cut. Place names I've only got Chicago Dog and Philly Cheesesteak. I think I know MonteCristo is something else.

This was a pretty Baby Boomer friendly set of clues, I only missed the art question. It amazes me how Thorsten finds clues like the theta one - who knew that would make a trivia clue? A freebie for math people, and maybe catch a few frat boys as well (and the girls too).
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I’ve tried both of those cheesesteak places a few times. One had black & white tile but it’s been a while. Passyunk is around the stadium area. I hope none of that’s burning tonight!

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Linear Gnome wrote: Sat May 30, 2020 11:19 pm The Wharton School of Business is at Penn, which might be a small clue.
True, although the street is about 2 or 3 miles from the school, I assume they're named after the same person/family.
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I almost put down "Chicago dog", then reread and went "Passyunk sounds like a NJ or PA thing... Pennsylvania sandwich? Philly cheesesteak!" Took a lucky W to close out the week; thankfully my opponent from Leeds hadn't heard of The Partridge Family.
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I could think of exactly one famous "american" sandwich. Cheesesteak it is. Wharton sounded like something from that area too.

also, A Taiga is tearing me a new one this year. In my familiar relegation spot, waiting to go back to B. Is there a word for those of us that alternate rundles almost every season?
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mennoknight wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:31 am A Taiga is tearing me a new one this year. In my familiar relegation spot, waiting to go back to B. Is there a word for those of us that alternate rundles almost every season?
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alietr wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 9:24 am
mennoknight wrote: Mon Jun 01, 2020 8:31 am A Taiga is tearing me a new one this year. In my familiar relegation spot, waiting to go back to B. Is there a word for those of us that alternate rundles almost every season?
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I've seen that term used in baseball for a player constantly shuttling between the major league and the minors. Specifically Bobby Brown, a part-time (obviously) outfielder with the New York Yankees circa 1980. He was also called a "AAAA player".

According to Wikipedia, he is best remembered for attacking the San Francisco Giants' "immensely unpopular mascot, Crazy Crab" while later playing for the Padres, knocking the crab out of action for a couple of games. The crab sued and eventually collected $2000, which seems to me a rather quaint figure. I don't remember this incident, but I can recall Lou PIniella throwing his glove at the San Diego Chicken, apparently a harbinger of trouble ahead.
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.... opposed to Dr. Bobby Brown, also a Yankee, who was president of the American League, and with whom I had worked many years ago.
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45% for Jojo whoever the hell that is, and only 79% for Cheers?!?
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alietr wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:22 am 45% for Jojo whoever the hell that is, and only 79% for Cheers?!?
I have a 8 year old daughter. That question could not have been easier.
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mennoknight wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:25 am
alietr wrote: Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:22 am 45% for Jojo whoever the hell that is, and only 79% for Cheers?!?
I have a 8 year old daughter. That question could not have been easier.
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