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Bamaman wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:42 pm Was a BMS really needed on Marshall’s job? Saying he was a SCOTUS Justice wasn’t wrong.
That's the whole point of a BMS. The response was correct, just not as specific as the writers wanted.

Although, as Davey points out, it wasn't really a BMS.
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Coryat: $40,000
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DD: 2/3
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LT: hep, Buddhism, Discovery, Tiger King, dram/drum, diamonds, Devil's Island (DD), signature required

Jon is going to be kicking himself for a while for not having watched Papillon recently. Carmela is thanking her lucky stars for a poorly pinned wordplay clue.
DBear wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:18 pm :( :D :D Guessed Liberty Bell. Of course it would come up later.
It actually came up nine clues earlier. Assuming the category had been taken in order, Liberty Bell would have been horrendous negbait, particularly for a second-row clue. As it was, I couldn't think of another famous, potentially cracked bell, so I went with Liberty Bell knowing full well it had to be wrong.
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Woppy T wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 8:16 pm
econgator wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:52 pm
Woppy T wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:37 pm The Terminator response was fine because I think they were asking for the character, not the movie title.
"In the Spanish language version of this 1991 sequel, the title character ..."

They wanted the sequel.
Thanks for correcting my memory. So she should have been negged for that one also.
She should have been negged on that, and that had a huge effect on the rest of the game. The very next question she chose after she should have been ruled incorrect was the DD where she won $5000. If she wasn’t wrongly given credit, she likely doesn’t get the DD and the rest of game could play out way different. The other two players have a legitimate claim that they should be brought back on another show.
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mas3cf wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:21 pm I found these boards really tough, they did not jive with my strengths at all.
Jibe, not jive.

Hate to be the grammar police, but this one irks me for some reason.
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This Is Kirk! wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:18 am
mas3cf wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:21 pm I found these boards really tough, they did not jive with my strengths at all.
Jibe, not jive.

Hate to be the grammar police, but this one irks me for some reason.
Usage, not grammar. There was nothing ungrammatical about the sentence other than the comma splice. Pedants would recommend a semicolon or a conjunction at that point. But they'd also object that the first line of your reply is a sentence fragment, and the first clause of your second line lacks a subject. So, really, who needs them? :D The grammar is fine for casual discussion.

But, yeah. Jibe, not jive.
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Why does the "I forgot to phrase in the form of a question and didn't realize it" mistake always seem to come near the end of games? Nerves?

Ran 2-Word Science Terms, but got only 3 right in J! Then in DJ!, ran Differ by a Letter but also got only 3 others right.

I thought "hep" and Berklee = Boston were extremely tough for the first box.

Swatted away "red scare" immediately. There was no red scare in WWI, was there? Obviously gotta be something else. I'll take the blank screen with the way this game went.

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The real question is, are we going to see the return to this board of he who shall not be named?
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The first Chief Justice to have the title Chief Justice of the United States was Taft in the 1920s. Prior to that, the title was Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

I said cave and rave.

Hammer: there was a Red Scare at the conclusion of World War II, at which time a number of Northern cities had socialist elected officials, including Milwaukee, Minneapolis, and Chicago. That Red Scare ended fairly quickly with the implosion of the Socialist Party in 1920.

The Red Scare of the 1940s and 1950s began when the Soviets ceased Eastern Europe and didn't end until the US had equaled Soviet gains in space.
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floridagator wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:49 am The first Chief Justice to have the title Chief Justice of the United States was Taft in the 1920s. Prior to that, the title was Chief Justice of the Supreme Court.

I said cave and rave.

Hammer: there was a Red Scare at the conclusion of World War II, at which time a number of Northern cities had socialist elected officials, including Milwaukee, Minneapolis, and Chicago. That Red Scare ended fairly quickly with the implosion of the Socialist Party in 1920.

The Red Scare of the 1940s and 1950s began when the Soviets ceased Eastern Europe and didn't end until the US had equaled Soviet gains in space.
John Paul Stevens wrote that it was Salmon P. Chase who first used the title-
https://books.google.com/books?id=pLnz2 ... 22&f=false
Nevertheless, plenty of sources bestow the title retroactively-
https://www.oyez.org/justices/john_marshall

You meant World War I, of course, but Hammer might not realize it...
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For a mechanical device and a labor pain, I said "crimp and cramp." Judges?

I was eager to see the game dynamics chart on J-Archive after this game because the bottom really fell out in the last minute of gameplay. It turned into an unusually small total for a runaway fast.
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So now we have established that Subarus can go in reverse. Pretty easy FJ but I was waiting for someone to take the Yellow Journalism negbait. Fortunately for Carmela, she had a runaway.
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BigDaddyMatty wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 11:31 pm Coryat: $40,000
47 R/0 W
DD: 2/3
FJ: :mrgreen:
LT: hep, Buddhism, Discovery, Tiger King, dram/drum, diamonds, Devil's Island (DD), signature required

Jon is going to be kicking himself for a while for not having watched Papillon recently. Carmela is thanking her lucky stars for a poorly pinned wordplay clue.
DBear wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:18 pm :( :D :D Guessed Liberty Bell. Of course it would come up later.
It actually came up nine clues earlier. Assuming the category had been taken in order, Liberty Bell would have been horrendous negbait, particularly for a second-row clue. As it was, I couldn't think of another famous, potentially cracked bell, so I went with Liberty Bell knowing full well it had to be wrong.
I was aware of the factoid about the Liberty Bell cracking after Marshall died so I wouldn’t have guessed it even if that clue had been picked first.

That being said, it needed more TOM on the second row. Especially if it higher on the board than:

What building is in the Red Square?
What did John Marshall do for a living?

I would even say the Korean religion clue was easier. It obviously isn’t Islamic, Jewish, or a branch of Christianity

I would have ranked the clues in this order:
Marshall
Kremlin
UN
Buddhist
Big Ben

Yes, Ben is a famous bell, but I was unaware it had cracked. Plus I think of Ben as the whole structure it is in rather than just a bell.
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BKavett wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:17 am She should have been negged on that, and that had a huge effect on the rest of the game. The very next question she chose after she should have been ruled incorrect was the DD where she won $5000. If she wasn’t wrongly given credit, she likely doesn’t get the DD and the rest of game could play out way different. The other two players have a legitimate claim that they should be brought back on another show.
As Mark so kindly implied in his write-up, they've ruled the way that they have for years—as recently as the previous game, in fact. Just because you apparently don't like the current rule doesn't mean that the show's rules weren't followed. And by the rules the show followed, the players don't have a legitimate claim to be brought back.
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This Is Kirk! wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:18 am
mas3cf wrote: Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:21 pm I found these boards really tough, they did not jive with my strengths at all.
Jibe, not jive.

Hate to be the grammar police, but this one irks me for some reason.
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OntarioQuizzer wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:43 am
BKavett wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:17 am She should have been negged on that, and that had a huge effect on the rest of the game. The very next question she chose after she should have been ruled incorrect was the DD where she won $5000. If she wasn’t wrongly given credit, she likely doesn’t get the DD and the rest of game could play out way different. The other two players have a legitimate claim that they should be brought back on another show.
As Mark so kindly implied in his write-up, they've ruled the way that they have for years—as recently as the previous game, in fact. Just because you apparently don't like the current rule doesn't mean that the show's rules weren't followed. And by the rules the show followed, the players don't have a legitimate claim to be brought back.
Do you have a list of citations for “the way that they have ruled for years”? It does not seem normal to me to ask for Terminator 2 but then accept Terminator. It certainly surprised me all three times that it happened in the last two days.
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jeff6286 wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:05 pm
OntarioQuizzer wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 11:43 am
BKavett wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:17 am She should have been negged on that, and that had a huge effect on the rest of the game. The very next question she chose after she should have been ruled incorrect was the DD where she won $5000. If she wasn’t wrongly given credit, she likely doesn’t get the DD and the rest of game could play out way different. The other two players have a legitimate claim that they should be brought back on another show.
As Mark so kindly implied in his write-up, they've ruled the way that they have for years—as recently as the previous game, in fact. Just because you apparently don't like the current rule doesn't mean that the show's rules weren't followed. And by the rules the show followed, the players don't have a legitimate claim to be brought back.
Do you have a list of citations for “the way that they have ruled for years”? It does not seem normal to me to ask for Terminator 2 but then accept Terminator. It certainly surprised me all three times that it happened in the last two days.
I'm not even sure the judges know what the rules are anymore based on some of this season's rulings.
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jeff6286 wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 12:05 pm Do you have a list of citations for “the way that they have ruled for years”?
That might be difficult to compile at this time; someone was scraping this morning and it has crashed the database.
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floridagator wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:49 am Hammer: there was a Red Scare at the conclusion of World War II, at which time a number of Northern cities had socialist elected officials, including Milwaukee, Minneapolis, and Chicago. That Red Scare ended fairly quickly with the implosion of the Socialist Party in 1920.
The clue said WWI, not WWII. I immediately rejected "red scare" because I was 9001% positive there was NOT one during WWI. Turns out there was.
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TenPoundHammer wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 1:42 pm
floridagator wrote: Sat Oct 31, 2020 5:49 am Hammer: there was a Red Scare at the conclusion of World War II, at which time a number of Northern cities had socialist elected officials, including Milwaukee, Minneapolis, and Chicago. That Red Scare ended fairly quickly with the implosion of the Socialist Party in 1920.
The clue said WWI, not WWII. I immediately rejected "red scare" because I was 9001% positive there was NOT one during WWI. Turns out there was.
That's the main reason why I wrote down "red scare", but wasn't 100% slam-dunk confident about it. I associate it WAY more with post-WWII/Cold War than with WWI. But sometimes the writers like to sprinkle in fun facts into clues along with the clue/response pair. They rarely have "The capital of Russia" as a clue. They'll find some slightly absurd or interesting fact about Russia and/or Moscow, and put that in as filler before ending the clue with the real clue. Like "In 1958, Smoot ate with Hawley in this city, the capital of Russia."

I thought that since they at least mentioned the 1950s, "red scare" would be appropriate. I was lucky not to consider other variations of red scare. As for the WWI variation of red scare...Russia certainly was communist back then, so it made sense, and I chalked it up to something I didn't know.
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DIFFERS BY A LETTER $1200 wrote:A mechanical device & a labor pain
Given was “What are contraption and contraction?”

What do y’all think about “What is a clamp and a cramp?”
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