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Another NHOI on the steakhouse here.

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Slam dunk FJ for me, along with the contestants. I enjoyed Jennifer's savvy wagering over the past two games. Helen got away with a bad one. Congrats to Donesh on a game well played, although he also got away with a FJ wager.
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floridagator wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:22 am
Ken mispronounced Bemidji. The first syllable has a schwa. He pronounced it with an eh as in egg.
Wow, that seems like a pretty subtle pronunciation difference to pick up on.

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DBear wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:42 pm

I don't think Donesh should've been negged as the two different measurements implied uneven in the clue. :|
I was expecting a BMS instead of an outright neg; I've often heard TV gymnastics commentators refer to them as the "uneven parallel bars".
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AFRET CMS wrote:
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DBear wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:42 pm

I don't think Donesh should've been negged as the two different measurements implied uneven in the clue. :|
I was expecting a BMS instead of an outright neg; I've often heard TV gymnastics commentators refer to them as the "uneven parallel bars".
The parallel bars are a distinct event of their own; you can't* BMS a wrong answer into a correct one, only a nebulous one.

(E.g.: "This country contains Belfast." "Ireland?" "Wrong." You can't BMS Ireland into Northern Ireland.)

*I'm sure there's been times this rule wasn't strictly adhered to, either intentionally or accidentally, but don't go on the show expecting to be the exception.
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Volante wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 5:01 pm
The parallel bars are a distinct event of their own; you can't* BMS a wrong answer into a correct one, only a nebulous one.

(E.g.: "This country contains Belfast." "Ireland?" "Wrong." You can't BMS Ireland into Northern Ireland.)

*I'm sure there's been times this rule wasn't strictly adhered to, either intentionally or accidentally, but don't go on the show expecting to be the exception.
That's still IMO far more clear-cut than most BMSes, which just turn into a game of "guess the synonym" that none of the contestants ever seem to win.
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Poll request: this Triple Stumper:
"G"-OGRAPHY $1600: K2 is also known as this, from the name of the mountain's original surveyor

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Robert K S wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:12 pm
Poll request: this Triple Stumper:
"G"-OGRAPHY $1600: K2 is also known as this, from the name of the mountain's original surveyor
I'm no geography buff, yet I knew that one. I was quite surprised that this one got past the contestants.

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Rackme32 wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:45 pm
Robert K S wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:12 pm
Poll request: this Triple Stumper:
"G"-OGRAPHY $1600: K2 is also known as this, from the name of the mountain's original surveyor
I'm no geography buff, yet I knew that one. I was quite surprised that this one got past the contestants.
That name hasn't been used much lately, like Ayers Rock or Mt McKinley. Pretty much you only see it as K2 these days.

In fact, I was going to add this unprompted but this makes a good segue: the first winter summit of K2 was completed only a few days ago by a 10 man Nepali team and none of the coverage referred to it as "Godwin Austen"

Only NatGeo even mentioned the name and not in context of the mountain but only as a glacier:
Despite the coronavirus pandemic this year, more than 60 people congregated at basecamp on Pakistan’s Godwin Austen Glacier, including a large commercial expedition with 22 paying clients 27 support Sherpa organized by Seven Summits Treks, a Nepali guide service.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/adve ... hest-peak/
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Robert K S wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:12 pm
Poll request: this Triple Stumper:
"G"-OGRAPHY $1600: K2 is also known as this, from the name of the mountain's original surveyor
I would have easily gotten it if it were the other way around, but I would have needed a minute or two to get it as asked.

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Picked Off wrote: I enjoyed Jennifer's savvy wagering over the past two games. Helen got away with a bad one. Congrats to Donesh on a game well played, although he also got away with a FJ wager.
Maybe Donesh had a hunch that Jennifer would wager wisely. She actually could have bumped her wager by 1299, but it still wouldn't have been enough to catch him with his pants down.
I wonder if the upcoming contestants are allowed to view the tapings from the 'audience', as before covid.

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I still can't decide if that wager is genius or not. Jennifer obviously has powerful incentives to bet small, given how close she is to Helen's doubled score and Donesh's current score isn't much higher. The problem is that Jennifer's incentivized wager is *too* small, since Donesh's bet is too big to save him on the double stumper if she's betting in the $1,601-$4,800 range that makes the most sense for her here.

If Donesh wants to be clever here, his wager needs to be WAY smaller. I guess that I've answered my own question here just by typing it out.

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Newhausen wrote: The problem is that Jennifer's incentivized wager is *too* small, since Donesh's bet is too big to save him on the double stumper if she's betting in the $1,601-$4,800 range that makes the most sense for her here.

If Donesh wants to be clever here, his wager needs to be WAY smaller. I guess that I've answered my own question here just by typing it out.
Yeah, It's hard to say if Donesh knew what he was doing or not. Even if he was convinced Jennifer would not bet above $25,000 on a get, he still (knowingly?) left himself open to a tie-breaker with Helen betting zero. He should have at least trimmed a dollar or two off his bet. I just realized I may have answered my own question. :)

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seaborgium wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:58 am
floridagator wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:22 am
Ken mispronounced Bemidji. The first syllable has a schwa. He pronounced it with an eh as in egg.

Maybe I'm nitpicking, but we were used to Alex's very careful pronunciation for 36 and 1/2 years.
Alex wasn't exactly a paragon of pronunciation. The first thing to spring to mind is his turning Z's in non-Italian, non-German foreign names into "ts" sounds, as in Kazuo Ishiguro and The Brothers Karamazov—both Japanese and Russian have "ts" sounds that are transliterated as "ts," and "z" sounds that are transliterated as "z." Ken's pronunciation was incorrect, but let's not pretend Alex's was always unassailable. (I'd find a clue where Alex read Bemidji to make a comparison, but the last time it came up was in early 2017, before I started recording and saving nearly every episode.)
The one of Alex's that most annoyed me was how he'd say "Coeur d'Alene" all super-Frenchy like, when the locals just say cor'-duh-lane'.
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Volante wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:57 pm
Rackme32 wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:45 pm
Robert K S wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:12 pm
Poll request: this Triple Stumper:
"G"-OGRAPHY $1600: K2 is also known as this, from the name of the mountain's original surveyor
I'm no geography buff, yet I knew that one. I was quite surprised that this one got past the contestants.
That name hasn't been used much lately, like Ayers Rock or Mt McKinley. Pretty much you only see it as K2 these days.
Yeah, I think the only reason I know it is from poring over old atlases and encyclopedias when I was a kid.

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seaborgium wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:58 am
floridagator wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:22 am
Ken mispronounced Bemidji. The first syllable has a schwa. He pronounced it with an eh as in egg.

Maybe I'm nitpicking, but we were used to Alex's very careful pronunciation for 36 and 1/2 years.
Alex wasn't exactly a paragon of pronunciation. The first thing to spring to mind is his turning Z's in non-Italian, non-German foreign names into "ts" sounds, as in Kazuo Ishiguro and The Brothers Karamazov—both Japanese and Russian have "ts" sounds that are transliterated as "ts," and "z" sounds that are transliterated as "z." Ken's pronunciation was incorrect, but let's not pretend Alex's was always unassailable. (I'd find a clue where Alex read Bemidji to make a comparison, but the last time it came up was in early 2017, before I started recording and saving nearly every episode.)
Yep, I'd say Alex wins this round of the Nugatory Picayune Nitpick Rodeo. Ironically it was the non-Canadian who inserted an eh into his pronunciation:


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