Wednesday, March 17, 2021 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Re: Wednesday, March 17, 2021 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Johnblue wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:43 pm
I said Progressive and Socialist for FJ. I’m glad we have a new champ. Much better game than yesterday.
FJ: I put Bull Moose, Socialist, and Communist into a basket. I left the Moose meat in the basket because I think that Communism was surprisingly popular at some period in history, but maybe it was later, or maybe never rose above Socialism. I also am not certain of the progression of early 20th century POTUSes. I can start with McKinley in 1900, to Teddy from VP, then I have no continuity until FDR in 1936, with Wilson somewhere around 1920.

It looks like stanky betting except for the leader but a sole solve cures many ails.
We missed a few clues for a severe storm warning.
The Schitt's Creek backfire was funny and worth the clue value, but too bad because he knew the right response.
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twelvefootboy wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:52 pm
Johnblue wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:43 pm
I said Progressive and Socialist for FJ. I’m glad we have a new champ. Much better game than yesterday.
FJ: I put Bull Moose, Socialist, and Communist into a basket. I left the Moose meat in the basket because I think that Communism was surprisingly popular at some period in history, but maybe it was later, or maybe never rose above Socialism. I also am not certain of the progression of early 20th century POTUSes. I can start with McKinley in 1900, to Teddy from VP, then I have no continuity until FDR in 1936, with Wilson somewhere around 1920.

It looks like stanky betting except for the leader but a sole solve cures many ails.
We missed a few clues for a severe storm warning.
The Schitt's Creek backfire was funny and worth the clue value, but too bad because he knew the right response.
Morgan let Anthony back in the game for no reason. The leader had to bet big so she could have just sat right and hoped for a miss.

I didn’t have a problem with Anthony’s bet. He needed for her to overbet and getting his score as high as possible helps his chances.

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39R. 2/4 on big clues. Immediately said California Condor instead of Passenger Pigeon for the extinct and alliterative North American bird. It's not extinct now but who knows, maybe it was extinct in 1913. Or maybe not. Missed FJ and wrote Democrat and Communist. For some reason I wasn't sure if Eugene V. Debs was the socialist or communist party. Also didn't know that Bull Moose party and Progressive party were alternate names. I got a bit confused on "Left-Leaning". My understanding is that the present parties swapped positions around the '60s and I don't know if the clue meant "Left" as "democratic" or "Left" based on policies. Of course that didn't matter. Also wasn't sure if Bull Moose was left or right leaning. If I had more time I would have realized that the clue mentioned they combined to get 1/3 of the vote and that hint probably excludes the two major parties. And if I had even more time I would have realized that I knew who got 1st place in that election.

Real tough opening for me. 15R on the J round and then 24R on DJ. Took me a while to get into it I guess.

I said coal miners for the clue about miners. Judges? The first source I found gave a slightly larger number than the one they cited and it might indicate they only wanted miners and not coal miners specifically.

Missed Catherine O'Hara, the Paralympics, smallpox, West Wind, and green goddess. I've seen those all before and I'll try to get those next time.

Television categories have been a weak point recently. I'll probably review some Emmy and Golden Globes nominees and learn to recognize them.
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mas3cf wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:25 pm
BrigadierSolo13 wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:10 pm
I guess I'll be the one to say it:

Anyone else surprised that "Socalist" was allowed to fly in this age of Barry Gordy?
The show is taped in SoCal, so they let is it slide.
That's an egregious error. I wonder if no one saw it in time? I missed it at first glance...Seriously, Socalist is in Urban Dictionary as someone from Southern California, so it fails on the Barry Gordy model...

I imagine the producers of Schitt's Creek tittering because they got the title on Jeopardy...It's asinine and I've never found anything funny in the show, either...Still love Catherine O'Hara, though...

I wrote Democrat & Bull Moose and was content until the final seconds, when I saw my error. My hurried correction scrawl probably wouldn't pass muster on the show, but in my living room I'm allowing it...at least my response had an i in it!

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MattKnowles wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:02 pm


I said coal miners for the clue about miners. Judges? The first source I found gave a slightly larger number than the one they cited and it might indicate they only wanted miners and not coal miners specifically.

As you say, the correct (and 1923) numbers for coal miners are "slightly larger," a pretty good indication that coal miners were the intended response. I would have BMSed miners.

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davey wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:45 pm
MattKnowles wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:02 pm


I said coal miners for the clue about miners. Judges? The first source I found gave a slightly larger number than the one they cited and it might indicate they only wanted miners and not coal miners specifically.

As you say, the correct (and 1923) numbers for coal miners are "slightly larger," a pretty good indication that coal miners were the intended response. I would have BMSed miners.
Source on Wikipedia says it peaked at 798,000 coal miners in 1923 and the Jeopardy! clue said there were more than 850,000 of this occupation. I did find another source that stated the number of coal miners in 1923 at 850,000 so I think that settles it.

I couldn't find any useful info about gold or iron or any other kind of miners.
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MattKnowles wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:02 pm
I got a bit confused on "Left-Leaning". My understanding is that the present parties swapped positions around the '60s and I don't know if the clue meant "Left" as "democratic" or "Left" based on policies.
If you're suggesting that the Democratic Party was not a left-wing party in 1912, you're right, but it's not accurate to say that the two major parties "swapped positions around the '60s." Rather, they began sorting ideologically in the '60s (and that process took a few decades). Before then, both parties had pretty strong liberal/progressive wings and conservative wings. That in itself rules out the major parties for this clue.

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“Socalist” vs. “Socialist”

Misspelled words are typically OK as long as you don’t add/subtract syllables. Plus, while you can certainly pronounce that as “So-Cal-ist”, you can also see how someone would pronounce both spellings the same.

I would allow it,

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yclept wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 3:50 am
Misspelled words are typically OK as long as you don’t add/subtract syllables.
Eh, even with the weasel word "typically" I wouldn't say that. Bejamin Franklin, Rockerfeller, and Emanciptation Proclamation didn't change the syllable count, but they were negged.

My one defense of "socalist" is that related words (especially as academic subjects like sociology or social science) are commonly abbreviated to "soc," pronounced "soash." So "soc-alist."

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I too wrote down Progressive (Bull Moose) and Socialist and was interested to see how it played out on screen. Don't understand the logic behind Morgan's wager, but she got away with it. She played well and deserved to win.
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BrigadierSolo13 wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:10 pm
Anyone else surprised that "Socalist" was allowed to fly in this age of Barry Gordy?
I was. I'm not sure how you can pronounce "socalist" and "socialist" the same.

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seaborgium wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:04 am


My one defense of "socalist" is that related words (especially as academic subjects like sociology or social science) are commonly abbreviated to "soc," pronounced "soash." So "soc-alist."
Or the "Socs", in S.E. Hinton's "Outsiders". Still, quite a stretch. I wasn't outraged, but that is probably my own defect. Morgan would have done better to check her answer rather than scribble superfluous information in the last seconds.

With "Barry Gordy", I suspect the judges didn't want to contradict Alex who seemed to feel so strongly, since it had no effect on the outcome. I think we are now in a different era.
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Went back and checked; I'd forgotten that Morgan did not at that point need to be right to win, and of course it meant more money for charity. Still, it's a dangerous precedent to relax their standards.
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I said Socialist and Progressive. Judges?

Let us start a SoCalist Party. Our platform is making all parties as good as those held in Southern California.

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The 1912 party that nominated Theodore Roosevelt could be called either bull moose or Progressive. You don't need to get all of the words in. Katie Couric misspoke when she said bullmoose is a synonym for Progressive. Only for the 1912 election. It would not be correct to refer to the 1924 progressive party that nominated Robert La Follette as The Bull Moose Party.
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floridagator wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:20 pm
The 1912 party that nominated Theodore Roosevelt could be called either bull moose or Progressive. You don't need to get all of the words in. Katie Couric misspoke when she said bullmoose is a synonym for Progressive. Only for the 1912 election. It would not be correct to refer to the 1924 progressive party that nominated Robert La Follette as The Bull Moose Party.
The clue was about the 1912 election, so it's pretty clear that she meant they were synonymous in 1912, and both responses were acceptable. Or either.

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Which is EXACTLY what FG posted.

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Johnblue wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 7:16 pm
Which is EXACTLY what FG posted.
Katie Couric didn't misspeak.

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I think Democratic was too obvious for FJ!. Nice job by Morgan, though.

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davey wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:35 pm
I imagine the producers of Schitt's Creek tittering because they got the title on Jeopardy...It's asinine and I've never found anything funny in the show, either...Still love Catherine O'Hara, though...
Have you watched beyond the first season? I know it can be cringey at first (Chris Elliott's character gets less airtime as the show progresses, which helps), but trust me when I say you should keep watching. It might be the best TV comedy of the last 15-20 years (on a par with Seinfeld and 30 Rock, imo), and it keeps getting better each season. Hint: watch with the captions on so you can catch more of the dialogue, especially Catherine O'Hara's as Moira.
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