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Volante wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 8:36 pm
opusthepenguin wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 7:28 pm
MarkBarrett wrote: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:59 pm I added 2/10/94: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6760
I'm shaking my head at DJ19 (WORLD HISTORY $800): For about 2,350 years the kingdom of Cush flourished along the Nile River in this country south of Egvpt
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Sudan. They flat out rejected Jonathan's (and my) response of Ethiopia, even though it has also been identified Cush--perhaps because it's along the BLUE Nile rather than the Nile proper? I call dirty trick, maybe even shenanigans
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Not according to Wikipedia (caveat researcher...). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Kush
Maybe the confusion lies in the ancient Greek name for it, Aethiopia? But it doesn't look like ancient Kush overlaps with modern Ethiopia?
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Yes, that's the meaning of Cush they were going for. The other meaning is an ancient region which, I think, includes at least part of modern day Ethiopia but it's hard to tell:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cush_(Bible)

Couple that with the association of Cush with name Aethiopia/Ethiopia and I think the clue is at best a dirty trick even if technically correct. I think they weren't expecting anyone to have more knowledge than "south of Egypt = Sudan".
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I added 2/11/94: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6761

Player pics of Peter Steffen, Rebecca Sinderbrand & E.J. Sieracki:
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Rebecca needed to avoid any of her three errors (including attempting and going blank on DJ30) to have made the semis.
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I added 7/19/96: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6762

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MarkBarrett wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:22 pm I added 7/19/96: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6762
DJ10 (WOMEN OF THE WORLD $600) response is missing a letter. Either that or I need to brush up on my countries and my Liv Ullmann facts.
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opusthepenguin wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:50 pm
MarkBarrett wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 8:22 pm I added 7/19/96: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6762
DJ10 (WOMEN OF THE WORLD $600) response is missing a letter. Either that or I need to brush up on my countries and my Liv Ullmann facts.
After giving Liv her double Ls and double Ns I ended up shy a letter on the country. Fixed, thanks.
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I added 5/25/92: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6763

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A regular play game with three new players. Yeah, I remember those days.
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^ There it is, the 100th S8 game in the archive. :D Congrats. Look forward to more.

(BTW, on the day that episode aired, Jay Leno took over as the new host of The Tonight Show.)

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/delaw ... =146154795 - On a more sadder note, Mr. Coleman died in 2005. I think this might be him in this obituary. X(
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MarkBarrett wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:05 pm I added 5/25/92: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6763

Player pics of Brian Haase, Geoff Coleman and Stephanie Perry:
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A regular play game with three new players. Yeah, I remember those days.
They were holding their breath hoping they didn’t get picked the previous game.
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I found a 1991 episode Ron/Bill/Rita on the Internet Archive: It starts at 4:25:41
https://ia601508.us.archive.org/20/item ... vhsrip.mp4
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kablamfan11 wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:19 pm I found a 1991 episode Ron/Bill/Rita on the Internet Archive: It starts at 4:25:41
https://ia601508.us.archive.org/20/item ... vhsrip.mp4
Working on it now (first segment done) as I got a tip about it early this morning.
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MarkBarrett wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:50 pm
kablamfan11 wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:19 pm I found a 1991 episode Ron/Bill/Rita on the Internet Archive: It starts at 4:25:41
https://ia601508.us.archive.org/20/item ... vhsrip.mp4
Working on it now (first segment done) as I got a tip about it early this morning.
Thanks
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Thanks to a post comment on FB this morning about where to find this game
I added 10/2/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6764

Player pics of Rita Stein, Bill Oldach and Ron Reisman:
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As you can see from the pics the quality was not good. Audio was fine and I (plus the OCR had more hits than misses) could read the clues, so that is all that matters.

At chat Rita mentioned that her husband John Kobler had written a biography of John Barrymore and it was the subject of a prior J! clue.

jlg wanted another S8 game and there it is.

Since my last post about upcoming games to archive I have had a chance to fully explore the tape with John McKeon games. Not at good as I hoped for, but better than nothing, I have #2, #3 though missing the FJ! round and #4.

I will do those tomorrow and Wednesday then go back to tourney games. Unless more regular play games surface online.
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http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6362

I hope Mark doesn't mind me posting in his thread. ;)

I have finished the partial game from October 1, 1991, posted a while ago at Archive.org. Ron Reisman vs. Ed Vallay vs. Rand Owen.

This game features one of the earliest mentions--though not the earliest--of Cliff Clavin, when going all-in on a wager. It wasn't a True Clavin, however, since Ron got the first DJ! round DD correct.

One of things that bugs me about Archive "scrapers" is that there already exist a couple of perfectly useful scrapes of the Archive. Yes, there'll be plenty of pop culture clues, both old and new, that a new scrape might get you, but they'll be drowned out by waves and waves of the same old thing. And much of those time sensitive clues aren't worth learning anyway. To whit, the DJ! BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY category, featuring these three clues that likely came from the same stack of newspapers in the writing room.
$400: On April 17, 1991 the Dow closed above this "barrier" for the first time

$800: On April 24, 1991 Pizza Hut delivered pizzas to each U.S. family they could find with this name

$1000: For its "World's Biggest Offer" this airline gave away 50,000 tickets for people to fly free April 23, 1991
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$400: What is 3,000?
$800: What is Domino?
$1000: What is British Airways?
For the purposes of J! prep, you're much better off spending 10 dollars on Secrets of the Jeopardy Champions, and making flashcards from the opera section or something. But the temptation of "every clue ever" (ugh) is just too much for some people.

Last year, I downloaded one of the Anki decks made from a rip of the Archive from about 3 years ago and tried to use it, but there's just so much dross. I spent as much or more time suspending cards as I did actually learning. There are only about 15 clues a game that are worth my time, and it's much quicker just to enter them into my custom decks by hand when I have the urge. Eventually someone will produce the ultimate J! prep Anki deck, but as of now, it doesn't exist, and a full rip of the Archive isn't it. End of soapbox.

Re: DENTISTRY for $1000 there are now 11 ADA-recognized dental specialties. Oral Surgery is now Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery, so don't get caught up there.

Clue of the game is ANCIENT TIMES for $600, a clue I didn't know, but that, yes, already appeared in the Archive:
This country's 28th dynasty consisted of a single king, Amyrtaeus of Sais
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What is Egypt?
2 India Cooper games to go, and then I'm done with those skeletons I put in last year, and I'll have to dig up one of the other tapes. I can't figure out how to force archive.org to update an already archived page though. Have a good day.
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Quoting both of you so you're both notified, and since I don't know whom to blame for this: Ron's win is for $8,400, but the heading of his second game says he has won $4,800.
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seaborgium wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:02 pm
Quoting both of you so you're both notified, and since I don't know whom to blame for this: Ron's win is for $8,400, but the heading of his second game says he has won $4,800.
Thanks, it should be okay now. What happened is I did the i.d. number for continuing from the previous game without realizing the FJ! round had not been entered yet. That made the returning champ's amount what he had after the DJ! round. I had to remove the $4800 and re-save the game with no amount showing for the returning total since the previous game was now fully complete in the Archive.

If I would have caught on to what was happening I would have manually entered the proper returning amount as that is part of archiving a game when relevant.
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seaborgium wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:02 pm
Quoting both of you so you're both notified, and since I don't know whom to blame for this: Ron's win is for $8,400, but the heading of his second game says he has won $4,800.
What a strange coincidence that these two games would get finished on the same day. I finished mine without realizing it led into the one Mark had just entered.
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MinnesotaMyron wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:19 pm For the purposes of J! prep, you're much better off ... making flashcards from the opera section
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Robert K S wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:23 pm
MinnesotaMyron wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 5:19 pm For the purposes of J! prep, you're much better off ... making flashcards from the opera section
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MarkBarrett wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:53 pm Thanks to a post comment on FB this morning about where to find this game
I added 10/2/91: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6764

Player pics of Rita Stein, Bill Oldach and Ron Reisman:
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As you can see from the pics the quality was not good. Audio was fine and I (plus the OCR had more hits than misses) could read the clues, so that is all that matters.

At chat Rita mentioned that her husband John Kobler had written a biography of John Barrymore and it was the subject of a prior J! clue.

jlg wanted another S8 game and there it is.

Since my last post about upcoming games to archive I have had a chance to fully explore the tape with John McKeon games. Not at good as I hoped for, but better than nothing, I have #2, #3 though missing the FJ! round and #4.

I will do those tomorrow and Wednesday then go back to tourney games. Unless more regular play games surface online.
Rita got ousted by Aaron Gershowitz, whose second game was one of the first S8 games posted to J-Archive. Who did the two face on 10/3?
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MarkBarrett wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:05 pm I added 5/25/92: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=6763

Player pics of Brian Haase, Geoff Coleman and Stephanie Perry:
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A regular play game with three new players. Yeah, I remember those days.
It's just interesting to see Robert Maxwell (as in Ghislaine Maxwell's dad) as a correct response.
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