Tuesday, June 28, 2022 Game Recap and Discussion (SPOILERS)

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Another Byron here - knew it was most likely wrong, but couldn’t come up with anything better. Poetry is not a favorite subject
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Surprised at all the Byron responses. It's common trivia knowledge that he died young and in the early 19th century - he was, after all, mad, bad, and dangerous to know.. What famous Poet Laureate would fit the time frame? Maybe the guy who wrote Charge Of The Light Brigade?
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Um…interesting…wagers in FJ. I knew enough to know it wasn’t Byron and guessed Tennyson since I knew he was a Lord. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good :mrgreen:
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Clue J16 directly referenced a Star Trek episode while the title of another Star Trek episode could have been useful to solve clue J20 in the same category.

If only Marina had been as gutless as the two gentlemen on her final wager.
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-Two- of the Shakespeare clues called out Star Trek! The one the game called out, Dagger of the Mind, but also a few episodes later, The Conscious of the King

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harrumph wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:30 pm Surprised at all the Byron responses. It's common trivia knowledge that he died young and in the early 19th century - he was, after all, mad, bad, and dangerous to know.. What famous Poet Laureate would fit the time frame? Maybe the guy who wrote Charge Of The Light Brigade?
Well, I knew -that- much...unfortunately brain couldn't come up with anyone in the later half of the decade...
Put too much stock in the 'baron' TOM rather than the poet. (Alfred, Lord Tennyson, was a Baron but...oops)
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Knew it wasn't Byron, wrote down Wordsworth (died 1850), then at about :20 remembered "Alfred, Lord..." and had just enough time to scrawl "Tennyson"...
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We could have had a most fun ending if Marina also bet $0. Standards and Practices may have needed to have a chat to see if something was up! :)

I can understand $0 for Joseph (though I would at least try to get ahead of Marina’s pre-FJ score), not so much for Pete. But it worked for him on this day I guess if you know nothing about the category whatsoever, that can justify a stand pat and pray.

As for Marina’s wager, obviously she just decided to put down half without thinking of much else.
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In the last 3 shows, 3 of the 6 challengers have been from the DC area -- Bethesda, Rockville, and DC. And one of the challengers this coming Friday is as well (Potomac, MD). Not to mention 2 of the champs now.
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Instaget on FJ for me -- I sang "Crossing the Bar" at my dad's funeral.
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I've worn Dr. Martens for years and never realized the 's' was part of the name. And the clue didn't really give you a way to fudge it, like "Dr. Martens' shoes."
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Category 13 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:46 am If only Marina had been as gutless as the two gentlemen on her final wager.
As someone who has wagered $0 and over $20,000 in FJ, I can tell you the $0 took more guts.
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Category 13 wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:46 amIf only Marina had been as gutless as the two gentlemen on her final wager.
I'm not sure I would call that gutless. It's a category that I personally know nothing about, and would be making a WAG, plucking a name from memory, just to write something down. So perhaps it's a strategic wager, not gutless. And the fact two contestants did it shows how it can make sense in certain situations.
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Contestants don't make a 0 wager enough, rather some useless small round number. And I agree that a 0 wager can be difficult to make.

In this situation however, I think a 0 wager would only be optimal for the leader. Had I been Pete I would have wagered 200, had I been Joe I would have wagered 401. Those wagers do more on a get while still maintaining the usefulness of a 0 wager.
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Golf wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:38 am Contestants don't make a 0 wager enough, rather some useless small round number. And I agree that a 0 wager can be difficult to make.

In this situation however, I think a 0 wager would only be optimal for the leader. Had I been Dave I would have wagered 200, had I been Joe I would have wagered 401. Those wagers do more on a get while still maintaining the usefulness of a 0 wager.
I assume you mean Pete instead of Dave?
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Yep. Post edited. Thanks.
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Golf wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:38 am Contestants don't make a 0 wager enough, rather some useless small round number. And I agree that a 0 wager can be difficult to make.

In this situation however, I think a 0 wager would only be optimal for the leader. Had I been Pete I would have wagered 200, had I been Joe I would have wagered 401. Those wagers do more on a get while still maintaining the usefulness of a 0 wager.
I wonder if a $2 wager would have been better for Marina.
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cinemaniax7 wrote: Tue Jun 28, 2022 10:28 pm This game would seem to be prime fodder for a Fourth Podium poll.


Um, yeah.

I picked up Knesset, microsurgery, Conscience (of the King) (With thanks to the original Star Trek, which had an episode of that name), (fear of) thunder, (fear of )work, Rubaiyat, and Wallis Warfield Simpson to scoop up $7800 in Lach Trash.

That was in 3rd place going into FJ but my sole get gave me a win from the fourth podium.

I also thought first of Lord Byron but then thought he died much earlier (I was right; it was almost 70 years earlier). The only "who else" I could come up with was Lord Tennyson, so I will take it.
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I got $6,600 in Lach Trash (including a "Dr. Scholl" neg that would have made me look like a goof after "Scholl's" got negged), and so I get to call it a fourth-podium win on my FJ get. Just a few hundred more (like $500), and I think I make a strategic wager that loses to Pete's strategy (and possibly to Joe, since I can't be sure he wouldn't bet $0 with someone behind him); as it was, my LT score puts me in a sweet spot where I only concern myself with holding back $401 just in case and bet everything else.
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Volante wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:47 am -Two- of the Shakespeare clues called out Star Trek! The one the game called out, Dagger of the Mind, but also a few episodes later, The Conscious of the King
Conscience, but yeah. Also, one of the contestants was named Marina.
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Golf wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:38 am Contestants don't make a 0 wager enough, rather some useless small round number. And I agree that a 0 wager can be difficult to make.

In this situation however, I think a 0 wager would only be optimal for the leader. Had I been Pete I would have wagered 200, had I been Joe I would have wagered 401. Those wagers do more on a get while still maintaining the usefulness of a 0 wager.
opusthepenguin wrote: Wed Jun 29, 2022 1:28 pm I wonder if a $2 wager would have been better for Marina.
Multi level thinking on FJ wagers is almost always a useless exercise since so many wagering sub-optimally. But this is kind of an interesting situation.

If Marina knows 100% that Pete will wager optimally, he's either going to cover Joe by $1, or go with a tiny wager if any. The cover wager is easy to cover, the tiny wager could be more difficult. But if I were Pete and going small, I'd wager $200 in a heartbeat which ties a 0 wager from the leader while forcing Joe to answer correctly in order to move in front. I would not wager $201. But Joe could wager $401 with no regrets. he could also wager all but $401. His viable range is so wide it's tough to predict.

Personally, I think $0 would be slightly better than $2 because I can see Pete wagering $200 but not $201, but I don't think either are terrible.

Multi level thinking at the poker table is fun against good strategic opponents, thankfully that skill very rarely applies to Jeopardy contestants.
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