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Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:30 am
by Archivists
Game Recap for Show #6442, 2012-09-25

CONTESTANTS
David Schuman, a communications and economics student originally from Ardsley, New York
Sophie Hill, a Navy analyst from Coronado, California
Erin Zwiener, a conservation journalist and pet-sitter from Abiquiu, New Mexico (whose 3-day cash winnings total $53,399)

OPENING REMARKS
Alex: Hey, Johnny. Thank you. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen. We started the week with a great contest yesterday, Erin managing to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat at the very last second, when she changed her response in Final Jeopardy! It was so exciting. Sophie and David, let's see how well you do against this champion today. Good luck to all three of you. Here comes the Jeopardy! Round. And here come the categories. First off...

JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
COMPOSERS' COUNTRY OF BIRTH (2/5) (Alex: We're talking about present-day countries now.)
WELCOME TO MY "FLAT" (5/5)
TAX-ONOMY (3/4, including 1 missed Daily Double)
SUCH A LITERARY CHARACTER! (5/5)
IT'S ALL GREEK LETTERS TO ME (4/5)
BILLBOARD'S TOP MONEY MAKERS OF 2011 (3/5)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
David: 8 R (including 1 rebound), 2 W (including 1 DD)
Sophie: 8 R, 2 W
Erin!: 6 R, 5 W

Clues revealed: 29
Triple Stumpers: 6
Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $4,800



SCORES AT THE FIRST BREAK
Sophie: $2,600
David: $2,000
Erin!: $800

CONTESTANT INTERVIEWS



Alex: David Schuman is from New York. He's a world traveler. In a few months, I'm going to be visiting Australia, and I have a choice, while I'm there, of visiting, uh, a rainforest or the Great Barrier Reef. You snorkeled the Great Barrier Reef. Why should I go there?

David: Yeah, the Great Barrier Reef was phenomenal. I just finished my semester abroad there in the spring, and... th--I went out there, and the boat ride was one of the most miserable things--

Alex: Oh.

David: --I've ever been on. I could not stop throwing up, the entire time, but it was okay, because everyone else on the boat was, too. But... And then on--but once I got there, it was phenomenal. The colors--you can't really describe it. You can't really capture it in pictures, either.

Alex: Okay.




Alex: Sophie Hill, Navy analyst from Coronado, California. That's the headquarters of the Navy SEALs, right?

Sophie: It is. I work for the Navy SEALs, doing capability development, and when they take me out into the field, I can't tell if they actually want my opinion on things, or they just want to see me in body armor and high heels.

Alex: Yeah, well, you're always surrounded by guys who are very muscular and in shape, right?

Sophie: I am.

Alex: How does it feel to be in front of somebody like me now?

Sophie: No difference whatsoever, sir.

Alex: Oh, well, uh--

Sophie: Looking good.

Alex: Miss Diplomacy. All right.




Alex: Erin Zwiener is our champion. She is a conservationist who is trying to wind up growing or producing all of her own food. How's that going?

Erin!: It's going all right. I, uh, got a goat, couple months ago, and I've been learning how to milk a goat, and, uh, I would recommend, if you ever decide to go that way, get one that already knows how to be milked. It's less painful.

JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
David found the Daily Double on the 25th clue. Erin! was in the hole with -$1,800, Sophie had $2,200, and David was at $3,200. David wagered $1,300.

TAX-ONOMY $800: If you've owned property for more than a year & sell it for a profit, you'll owe the long-term type of this tax
(David: What is estate tax?)
...
(Alex: Less than a minute to go now, David.)

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
IT'S ALL GREEK LETTERS TO ME $800: This Greek letter seen here sure marks the spot
(Erin!: What is chi?)
[Alex clarified the pronunciation could be "zye" or "sye".]

COMPOSERS' COUNTRY OF BIRTH $400: Edward Elgar

COMPOSERS' COUNTRY OF BIRTH $800: Hector Berlioz
(David: What is Germany?)
(Erin!: What is Spain?)

COMPOSERS' COUNTRY OF BIRTH $1000: Heitor Villa-Lobos
(Sophie: What is Mexico?)
(Erin!: What is Spain?)

BILLBOARD'S TOP MONEY MAKERS OF 2011 $1000: No. 9 with $13 million, he made the country charts his "Kinda Party"

BILLBOARD'S TOP MONEY MAKERS OF 2011 $800: We like "The Sweetest Taboo" too, but were still surprised to see this 1-named singer at No. 6
(Sophie: Who is Rihanna?)
(Erin!: Who is Adele?)

SCORES AT THE END OF THE JEOPARDY! ROUND
Sophie: $4,200
David: $2,300
Erin!: -$1,800

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion [SPOILERS]

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 11:30 am
by Archivists
DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND CATEGORIES
PHOENIX (4/5, including 1 correct Daily Double)
DAYTIME SOAPS FOR SHORT (4/5)
THE ADMIRALS CLUB (2/4, including 1 missed Daily Double)
"M"ISCELLANY (3/5)
TO YOUR HEALTH (3/5)
THESE PUNS ARE OFFAL (5/5) (Alex: Stinky-poo stuff.)

THE RIGHTS & THE WRONGS
David: 9 R (including 1 rebound), 4 W
Sophie: 7 R (including 1 rebound and 1 DD), 3 W (including 1 DD)
Erin!: 5 R, 2 W

Clues revealed: 29
Triple Stumpers: 7
Double Jeopardy! Round Potential Lach Trash: $8,800



FIRST DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
Sophie snagged the next Daily Double on the 13th clue. Erin! was in the hole with -$2,600, Sophie had $5,000, and David was at $6,700. Sophie wagered $2,500.

PHOENIX $1600: A gallery in Phoenix' Heard Museum is named for this Supreme Court justice who worked in Phoenix in the 1970s

SECOND DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND DAILY DOUBLE
It was Sophie who snatched up the last Daily Double of the game on the 26th clue. Erin! had $3,400, Sophie had $10,300, and David was at $6,700. Sophie wagered $3,000.

THE ADMIRALS CLUB $1200: This admiral was nicknamed the "Hero of Manila"
(Sophie: [No response])

TRIPLE STUMPERS IN THE DOUBLE JEOPARDY! ROUND
"M"ISCELLANY $400: Habitat 67 in this North American city is a landmark in 20th century architecture
(What is Mexico City?)

"M"ISCELLANY $1600: The term for a single one of the wise men who visited Jesus, it's also the title of a John Fowles novel
(Sophie: What are the Magi?)
(Alex: No.)
(Sophie: W-what is--)
(Erin!: What is Magi?)
(David: What is Mage?)
(Alex: No. [*], singular, not Magi, plural.)

THE ADMIRALS CLUB $2000: This engineer who developed the USS Nautilus, the first atomic-powered sub, was promoted to admiral in 1973

TO YOUR HEALTH $2000: (Dr. Oz reads the clue from an operating room.) From the Greek for "clothing", it's this formation of a blood clot in a blood vessel; if it causes a blockage, you've got an embolism
(David: What is coagulation?)

DAYTIME SOAPS FOR SHORT $1200: In the 1960s Agnes Nixon was its head writer:
"GL"

PHOENIX $800: This airline once based in Phoenix merged with U.S. Airways & the arena once named for it is now the U.S. Airways Center

TO YOUR HEALTH $800: In the body, dietary tryptophan is converted to vitamin B3, aka this

SCORES ENTERING FINAL JEOPARDY!
Sophie: $8,100
David: $6,300
Erin!: $3,400

FINAL JEOPARDY! CATEGORY
THE BIBLE

VENUSIAN MONOLOGUES/MARTIAN CHRONICLES
Three-quarters for first place.
Sophie: Wager $4,501 to cover David.
David: You'll want to wager $1,801, and you'll win the game if Sophie wagers enough and gets it wrong.
Erin!: You can't really win on a Triple Stumper, so your best hope is if you're the only one to get Final right. Wager everything but a few dollars.

FINAL JEOPARDY! CLUE
This term for a final resting place got its name because clay was dug up there for craftsmen

FINAL SCORES
Erin!: $3,400 - $2,000 = $1,400 (What is Gommorah) (3rd place: $1,000)
David: $6,300 - $2,000 = $4,300 (What is a tomb?) (New champion: $4,300)
Sophie: $8,100 - $4,000 = $4,100 (What is a cemetary) (2nd place: $2,000)

Total Potential Lach Trash: $13,600

GAME DYNAMICS
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CORYAT SCORES
Sophie: $10,200, 15 R (including 1 DD), 5 W (including 1 DD)
David: $7,600, 17 R, 6 W (including 1 DD)
Erin!: $3,400, 11 R, 7 W
Combined Coryat: $21,200

BATTING AVERAGES
David: 17/59 = .288
Sophie: 15/60 = .250
Erin!: 11/58 = .190
Team: 43/63 = .683

MISCELLANEOUS INTERESTING CLUES
COMPOSERS' COUNTRY OF BIRTH $200: Frederic Chopin
(Erin!: What is the Czech Republic?)

WELCOME TO MY "FLAT" $800: This hairstyle can also refer to certain warships
(Alex: Yeah, you see a lot of those with the Navy SEALs, I bet.)

BILLBOARD'S TOP MONEY MAKERS OF 2011 $400: With $13 million, she was rolling in the deep dough
(Alex: Now's the time for her.)

WELCOME TO MY "FLAT" $400: To be "caught" this anatomical way is to be caught unprepared
[The end-of-round signal sounds.]

THESE PUNS ARE OFFAL $1200: The blood bank wouldn't let me donate; I went there in this blood vessel
(Sophie: What is the bloodmobile?)
(Erin!: What is a veil?)
(Alex: No.)
(Erin!: Oh! [gestures with hand])

"M"ISCELLANY $1200: They're the small but fun bumps seen here

"M"ISCELLANY $2000: This monarch of Austria was the mother of Marie Antoinette

PHOENIX $1200: A popular activity in Phoenix is hiking this mountain that's said to resemble a certain animal kneeling, hence its name

PHOENIX $400: The Salt River Valley, home to Phoenix as well as Mesa & Tempe, is nicknamed "The Valley of" this
(Alex: You are right, with less than a minute now.)

THE ADMIRALS CLUB $800: (Kelly of the Clue Crew shows us a figurehead in the Sydney, Australia Nat'l Maritime Museum.) The figurehead of this famed admiral, who died off Cape Trafalgar & became an English national hero, comes from an 1814 British battleship
(David: Who is Horatio Hornblower?)

CORRECT RESPONSES
capital gains
xi
England
France
Brazil
Jason Aldean
Sade
Sandra Day O'Connor
Admiral Dewey
Montreal, Canada
Magus
Hyman Rickover
a thrombosis
(The) Guiding Light
America West
niacin
potter's field
Poland
a flattop
Adele
flat-footed
vein
moguls
Maria Theresa
Camelback Mountain
the Sun
Nelson

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 3:18 pm
by jeff6286
The Bible
This term for a final resting place got its name because clay was dug up there for craftsmen.
Spoiler
What is a potter's field? Erin said gomorrah; David said tomb; Sophie said cemetery.
Sophie Hill: $8,100-$4,000=$4,100
David Schuman: $6,300-$2,000=$4,300...now a 1-day champion with $4,100
Erin Zwiener: $3,400-$2,000=$1,400

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 6:18 pm
by Case
Aaaannnddd . . . there goes Erin. Wonderful run, my friend! I'm glad I didn't have to play against you, chickadee; you're way too fast and too knowledgable. Even playing against you in the practice rounds was tough, and I was proud to have more or less a draw there.

I discovered that Erin is a boardie during lunch the first day of taping. When we returned to the studio, I mentioned to Maggie that Erin and I frequented this discussion board, and Maggie immediately called the legal team over to check on that and have us make notations on our legal forms. That's when I knew there was no way TPTB would ever let the two of us play each other unless absolutely necessary and as soon as Erin was defeated, I would be up. That eliminated some of the nerve-wracking anxiety of just sitting there waiting during the games, wondering when I'd be called. Not to mention I'd seen some REALLY good players fall to her and I didn't want to be another! I was so impressed that she battled back from so far down, even if she couldn't quite pull off the win today. Potters field, indeed! Not one of us contestants still waiting had any idea what the writers were going for there. I'm looking forward to seeing how the boardies did at home on this question that stumped all of us in the studio.

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:20 pm
by TreehugginCowgirl
Tonight may be one of those Jose Cuervo, you are a friend of mine nights. ;)

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:28 pm
by zakharov
...potters field? What? Seriously, what? I thought I knew my Bible reasonably well and I have never heard of that. Where in the bible is this?

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:29 pm
by Austin Powers
zakharov wrote:...potters field? What? Seriously, what? I thought I knew my Bible reasonably well and I have never heard of that. Where in the bible is this?
I think it's where Judas got buried. Anyway I'm not surprised that no one got it. Painful episode all around.

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:30 pm
by econgator
That was a tough one, Erin. Sad to see you go.

I've heard of potter's field, but that connection was never coming.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potters_field

I would also think that America West Airlines in the top box was way undervalued. I got it mostly through their callsign of CACTUS.

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:31 pm
by zakharov
Austin Powers wrote:
zakharov wrote:...potters field? What? Seriously, what? I thought I knew my Bible reasonably well and I have never heard of that. Where in the bible is this?
I think it's where Judas got buried. Anyway I'm not surprised that no one got it. Painful episode all around.
New Testament, bah!

The #jeopardy hashtag on Twitter tonight is telling me that the ladies seem to love David.

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:32 pm
by Austin Powers
zakharov wrote:
Austin Powers wrote:
zakharov wrote:...potters field? What? Seriously, what? I thought I knew my Bible reasonably well and I have never heard of that. Where in the bible is this?
I think it's where Judas got buried. Anyway I'm not surprised that no one got it. Painful episode all around.
New Testament, bah!

The #jeopardy hashtag on Twitter tonight is telling me that the ladies seem to love David.
I'm sure his dreamy way of going back to the Phoenix category while trailing with that DD pretty obviously waiting in the $1200 spot in Admirals really makes them swoon.

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:33 pm
by corvo
Potter's field? I wouldn't have gotten that if you gave me a lifetime.

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:37 pm
by TenPoundHammer
Could've gotten 5/5 in Flat, but NHO "caught flat footed" and wasn't sure if it was Flat Earth Organization, Society, or what.

Anyone notice that he flubbed a line in the O'Connor clue (Phoenix for $1600) but they left it in?

Soaps was a cakewalk. DOOL may be the easiest $2000 ever. On the flipside, B3 = niacin and Habitat 67 seemed waaaay undervalued.

Stalin kept me from the run in Puns. I couldn't get Lenin/Putin out of my head.

My knowledge of malls resulted in Camelback being my only get in Phoenix.

Potter's WHAT, now?!

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:55 pm
by legendneverdies
Sophie didn't make the usual bet from first place.
Erin 3400-2000=1400
Sophie 8100-4000=2100
David 6300-2000=4300

Didn't matter anyway. SOphie would have had a lock if not for a $3K DD loss

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 7:58 pm
by CrunchyTaco
For the second day in a row the think music was strongly abbreviated over here in Detroit. I'm hoping this is not permanent, it is really hard to play along when only given a couple of seconds to come up with a response in FJ.

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:01 pm
by StevenH
I really thought that Erin was going to get that Rutter-esque 3rd round UToC style victory. If there was a FJ to do it on it would have been that one. Oh well.

I ran the composers' birth countries category and was surprised to see the contestants struggle with it. I am still not a fan of the "give the birth country" categories, though. This wasn't the best game to watch, but I didn't think that it was a great board.

I had no idea on FJ. That phrase doesn't ring a bell at all, but Bible is a weak spot for me.

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:05 pm
by TenPoundHammer
CrunchyTaco wrote:For the second day in a row the think music was strongly abbreviated over here in Detroit. I'm hoping this is not permanent, it is really hard to play along when only given a couple of seconds to come up with a response in FJ.
Are they showing any sort of interstitial show? I know the last time someone complained about Detroit cutting the show to shreds, it was because they were doing some sort of live remote during commercial breaks.

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:15 pm
by zerobandwidth
Wow, that was a tough couple of boards, and a near-trashy final. I fancy myself a word origin buff and still had no clue.

Erin, was this toward the end of a taping day? It seemed like the tension and exhaustion at the end of the previous match hadn't quite worn off. You mounted a valiant comeback and I wondered if you were going to pull another rabbit out of your trivia hat. I hope I can be half as graceful under pressure if I ever make it on!

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:17 pm
by TenPoundHammer
Yes, I got the Lach Trash on Jason Aldean. However, it's pronounced "AL-dean" (first syllable rhymes with "Pal"), not "ALL-dean".

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:50 pm
by legendneverdies
zerobandwidth wrote:Wow, that was a tough couple of boards, and a near-trashy final. I fancy myself a word origin buff and still had no clue.

Erin, was this toward the end of a taping day? It seemed like the tension and exhaustion at the end of the previous match hadn't quite worn off. You mounted a valiant comeback and I wondered if you were going to pull another rabbit out of your trivia hat. I hope I can be half as graceful under pressure if I ever make it on!

I think they tape five shows a day so this would have been the second show of the tape day probably.

Re: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 Game Recap & Discussion (SPOILERS)

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:23 pm
by NoName84
I have heard of the term potter's field, but never in a Biblical context.