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MarkBarrett wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 7:23 pm [Takes bow] Of course, that is one of my better areas and advantage me in probably seeing the game twice when originally aired and rerun back then.

From TuneIn, we have 10/1/86: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7973

Jonathan Oren vs. Anne Sommers vs. Chuck Wessel

Brutal game to archive with audio only and generated transcript can only help so much. The numbers are okay, but there is still some clue wording off that I will work on sometime bedtime tonight to try to fix.
I hope that Archiving this game assisted you with LL97 MD3 Q3. (see DJ15)
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OntarioQuizzer wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:09 pm
MarkBarrett wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 7:23 pm [Takes bow] Of course, that is one of my better areas and advantage me in probably seeing the game twice when originally aired and rerun back then.

From TuneIn, we have 10/1/86: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7973

Jonathan Oren vs. Anne Sommers vs. Chuck Wessel

Brutal game to archive with audio only and generated transcript can only help so much. The numbers are okay, but there is still some clue wording off that I will work on sometime bedtime tonight to try to fix.
I hope that Archiving this game assisted you with LL97 MD3 Q3. (see DJ15)
CLAP-CLAP-CLAP-CLAP deep in the heart of Texas!
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Robert K S wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:12 pm
OntarioQuizzer wrote: Thu May 25, 2023 5:09 pm
MarkBarrett wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 7:23 pm [Takes bow] Of course, that is one of my better areas and advantage me in probably seeing the game twice when originally aired and rerun back then.

From TuneIn, we have 10/1/86: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7973

Jonathan Oren vs. Anne Sommers vs. Chuck Wessel

Brutal game to archive with audio only and generated transcript can only help so much. The numbers are okay, but there is still some clue wording off that I will work on sometime bedtime tonight to try to fix.
I hope that Archiving this game assisted you with LL97 MD3 Q3. (see DJ15)
CLAP-CLAP-CLAP-CLAP deep in the heart of Texas!
Not that I would have missed it anyway, but it was fresh. We zeroed each other on it while giving 1s each for the gin & rum
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Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 2/14/85: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7984

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DJ11 I said aloud when the clue was revealed, "Don't do it." Didn't work as the ToCer bit on it.
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Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 5/22/86: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7986

Player pics of Janice Gordon, Lisa May and Jane Erskine:
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Right category name for that audio DD.

Uncle Alex at DJ1 after giving the catgories.

Not the only time it happened in early seasons, but it needed to stop in ending the think music early with responses complete. Especially when a player was not correct.

Janice was a character and the things I noted when archiving can't compare to watching her. It started before the game as I had to get the contestant picture of Lisa from chats as she barely walked out and Janice must have said something to keep Lisa from looking out to give the chance at a capture.
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MarkBarrett wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 6:22 pm Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History I added 5/22/86: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7986
If you thought James Dean's middle name was tough, you're gonna love the DD at DJ20. We welcome them to the J-Canon, but I'm not gonna spoil it until you all've had the chance to look.
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Courtesy the National Archives of Game Show History, we have Paul Croshier game 2, 1985-01-31: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7987

Pictures of Georgia Robertson, Louie Malkin, and Paul Croshier:
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- Yes, the 5th category in the J! round was rendered that way.
- You can definitely tell how judging has changed over the years. J20 and J22 would have been insta-negged today; I was shocked by the BMS on DJ8 but I guess it flies.
- DJ24: Yes, Alex did say it five times.
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OntarioQuizzer wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:14 am Courtesy the National Archives of Game Show History, we have Paul Croshier game 2, 1985-01-31: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7987

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Notes:

- Yes, the 5th category in the J! round was rendered that way.
- You can definitely tell how judging has changed over the years. J20 and J22 would have been insta-negged today; I was shocked by the BMS on DJ8 but I guess it flies.
- DJ24: Yes, Alex did say it five times.
Alex saying it five times had me glad it was not "Candyman".
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Courtesy of the National Archives of Game Show History, we have Paul Croshier game 3, 1985-02-01: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7988

Pictures of Cathy Swan, Greg Ferrara, and Paul Croshier:
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This was the first of many episodes where WEWS in Cleveland ran advertisements in the local papers advertising local contestants. However, this absolutely threw me for a loop when putting the Season 1 puzzle together—because WEWS was a week ahead of the rest of the country. Essentially, when the rest of the puzzle got filled out with information, I learned that the information in the Akron Beacon Journal and Cleveland Plain Dealer was not definitive for dating episodes.

Otherwise, this was a good game. Aggressive Daily Double betting as well.
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OntarioQuizzer wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:14 am J20 ... would have been insta-negged today
J16?
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Robert K S wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 11:52 am
OntarioQuizzer wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 9:14 am J20 ... would have been insta-negged today
J16?
Yes.
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OntarioQuizzer wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 10:17 am WEWS was a week ahead of the rest of the country.
I always thought it was that WEWS was on schedule and L.A. was a week behind. I know WEWS premiered on the correct date (9/10). How did WEWS get ahead of schedule? Where did they miss a week of games?
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Robert K S wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 11:58 am
OntarioQuizzer wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 10:17 am WEWS was a week ahead of the rest of the country.
I always thought it was that WEWS was on schedule and L.A. was a week behind. I know WEWS premiered on the correct date (9/10). How did WEWS get ahead of schedule? Where did they miss a week of games?
I don't know—but they skipped a week somewhere. KCBS in LA started a week late (and only aired the first five weeks) but when KCOP picked it up in January, KCOP was airing episodes on the correct date. Basically, the post-Jeopardy! movies airing on KCOP match up with the "correct" airdate; by way of example, "Episode 100" aired in LA on the 100th weekday if you count 9/10/84 as "weekday #1".
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Courtesy the National Archives of Game Show History, we have Paul Croshier, Game 4: 1985-02-04: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7990

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J15: One of the longest responses ever given by a player, I'm sure.
DJ21: Agreed with the judges, that was not a well-pinned clue.

Paul really had the STAYing CLAM thing figured out.
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Courtesy the National Archives of Game Show History, we have Paul Croshier, game 5, 1985-02-05: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7991

Pictures of Joe Gauthier, Pete Kolanowski, and Paul Croshier:
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An incredibly competitive matchup.

FJ: Erratum tag added.
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From TuneIn, we have 1986-10-30: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7989

Peggy Kroencke vs. Jeff Suto vs. Sarah Frommer

J3 had me unable to make out the first city. I heard ___nberg.

J10 is a classic miss when a contestant is glad to be on before social media.

J22 had me unable to make out the city. I heard ___lden.

Ah, the memories evoked by DD1.

Like many others here would do, I had both for the FJ! clue.
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MarkBarrett wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 3:20 pm J22 had me unable to make out the city. I heard ___lden.
Buellton

https://www.peasoupandersens.net/mobile ... llton.html

No idea on the Poland city
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MarkBarrett wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 3:20 pm Ah, the memories evoked by DD1.
As a 1980 baby, I have none, so the song must have been a flash in the pan.

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Robert K S wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 3:39 pm
MarkBarrett wrote: Sat May 27, 2023 3:20 pm Ah, the memories evoked by DD1.
As a 1980 baby, I have none, so the song must have been a flash in the pan.
Yeah, it was very much of its time. You had to be there. And not just in an infant sling enjoying the swaying motion as Mom moved the control stick.
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Courtesy the National Archives of Game Show History, we have 1985-02-06: https://j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7992

Pictures of Alan Cook, Paul Simione, and Gail Abrahamson:
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We were missing intros, though I am thankful for another one of those Akron Beacon Journal ads for the correct spelling of Paul's last name.

Another Season 1 special with 20W, and I don't think I've ever used my "[no response]" macro as much as I have in this game.
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